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24-12-2020 17:52
Pudsey_Bear For Brexit discussion per se there are enough threads, but to discuss a particular aspect of motorhoming although it is political, even on Owners that would be discussed too, both are supposed to MoHo forums after all, most aspects of Brexit are Sweet FA to do with motorhomes in the main, but the thread is in the subs lounge.
24-12-2020 17:49
veevee nicholsong

Thanks, but I unblocked Adblok but the subscription demand came back before I could read it.

FOR MEMBERS
The six month rule and other things to know about bringing a British car to France

Many people who move to France from the UK want to bring their car with them - but there are some rules you'll need to follow once you get here. Here's a look at what you need to know.
The 6-month rule

You are required to register your UK car in France if you intend to live here for more than six months - in any 12-month period.

Non-residents can keep their UK license plates for up to six months while French residents have just one month to get them changed.

In some cases, French residents can have up to three months to get their French plates if the car needs to be approved by the DRIRE (Regional Directorate for Industry, Research and the Environment).

Driving without a French licence plate is against the law if you are here long-term so even though you will see British people in France doing it, it is in fact illegal.

That means that if the car is involved in an accident it is possible that the insurer will refuse any claim if the vehicle is not carrying a French registration plate and has not been properly registered.

In order to get your carte grise - which shows that your car is registered in France - the French government advises you to follow these steps:
24-12-2020 17:42
veevee
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Originally Posted by nicholsong View Post
Thanks, but I unblocked Adblok but the subscription demand came back before I could read it.


Unfortunately my experience is that the UK Government's info is often based on what they think the EU directive requires a country to enact but not necessarily the domestic law which the country applies.


I am sorry if you think that discussing what effect on rules is discussing the politics itself, but they are a fact of life.and if one requires the facts they are often the result of politics.


Here in Poland the government have stated specifically that they will not be bound by an EU Regulation which took effect as law throughout the EU on 1st Sept 2020 and that the domestic law which it purports to change is unchanged. That was a political statement, but the effect is that if I stood my ground on the basis of EU law I could be taken in front of a Polish court which would apply domestic Polish law. One cannot discuss the facts of what applies without taking note of the politics being used.


Geoff

I had a particularly unpleasant experience on another forum where the management and I had opposing views on Brexit and politics in general. My views were determined but polite, always prepared to consider the other view and I accept that others have every right to an opposing view. What is not acceptable is bullying from those with power, since then I separate politics from other aspects of life where possible.

Of course you are correct that politics controls every aspect of our being, but doesn't always have to be mentioned as it's a given.

There, we have both explained how we got to this point, I'll copy and paste the relevant detail for you a little later.
24-12-2020 08:32
nicholsong
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Originally Posted by veevee View Post
I take your point re differeing national approaches to various aspects of governance within the EU, but having seen elsewhere the problems caused by mixing politics however mild with other subject matter means I'm probably too sensitive to anything that hints of political comment within a technical thread.
It was one of the delights on returning here to see there is a political thread that works.

I'm new back here and working out how this forum works, I'll try not to be so sensitive.


My initial information re vehicles 90 in 180 days in Schengen came from English language French living forums, I didn't research deep enough into them to confirm what was being suggested or if my take on it was correct. Here is a link to an English language French news site that explains the situation in France in detail. It gives 6 months in any one year but appears to be able to be continuous, unlike the rolling 90 in 180.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20190715/the...-car-to-france


I don't know if the situation in Poland is the same as France or this if rule is applied in the same manner, but hope this helps you in your reseach.



Thanks, but I unblocked Adblok but the subscription demand came back before I could read it.


Unfortunately my experience is that the UK Government's info is often based on what they think the EU directive requires a country to enact but not necessarily the domestic law which the country applies.


I am sorry if you think that discussing what effect on rules is discussing the politics itself, but they are a fact of life.and if one requires the facts they are often the result of politics.


Here in Poland the government have stated specifically that they will not be bound by an EU Regulation which took effect as law throughout the EU on 1st Sept 2020 and that the domestic law which it purports to change is unchanged. That was a political statement, but the effect is that if I stood my ground on the basis of EU law I could be taken in front of a Polish court which would apply domestic Polish law. One cannot discuss the facts of what applies without taking note of the politics being used.


Geoff
24-12-2020 07:49
raynipper
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Originally Posted by veevee View Post
Thanks for bringing this back to the purpose of the thread, but we all need to let off steam, unusual times.

Meant to write have read your earlier adventures in the US, looks like you had the time of your life, thanks for that too.
Yes a great ten years touring the states in superb RVs seeing places and meeting up with now lifelong friends. But just memories now.
Never could quite get on with Euro vans as too many compromises and I enjoyed the challenge of getting a 40' into places people said would not go.

Ray.
24-12-2020 03:47
veevee
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Originally Posted by nicholsong View Post
You yourself mentioned a Schengen rule, and I took Pudsey's post to mean to point out that there it is doubtful if there is a 'union' if different countries are not consistent in the hoops they make people go through to register, thus the discussion about how the EU/ Schengen and their Member States deal differently with problems including registration.

Why should you be constrained to register in 90 days if I in Poland are given 180 days - unless there is a EU/Schengen over-riding rule, but is there?

It is all relevant to whether the average citizen is able to discern whether any country in any union is treating all citizens fairly. If you compare the requirements of France and Spain with other countries they are generally in most procedures difficult to comply with, which makes a nonsense, particularly for vehicles, which wherever registered. are allowed to roam freely within the EU.

If the requirements were all the same maybe you VeeVee might not be having to ask how in particular one has to do it in France.


The EU brief on techjnical inspections says any inspection in an EU country is acceptable, but Poland will not accept one.



Geoff

I take your point re differeing national approaches to various aspects of governance within the EU, but having seen elsewhere the problems caused by mixing politics however mild with other subject matter means I'm probably too sensitive to anything that hints of political comment within a technical thread.
It was one of the delights on returning here to see there is a political thread that works.

I'm new back here and working out how this forum works, I'll try not to be so sensitive.


My initial information re vehicles 90 in 180 days in Schengen came from English language French living forums, I didn't research deep enough into them to confirm what was being suggested or if my take on it was correct. Here is a link to an English language French news site that explains the situation in France in detail. It gives 6 months in any one year but appears to be able to be continuous, unlike the rolling 90 in 180.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20190715/the...-car-to-france


I don't know if the situation in Poland is the same as France or this if rule is applied in the same manner, but hope this helps you in your reseach.
24-12-2020 00:01
nicholsong
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Originally Posted by veevee View Post
Thanks for bringing this back to the purpose of the thread, but we all need to let off steam, unusual times.

Meant to write have read your earlier adventures in the US, looks like you had the time of your life, thanks for that too.
You yourself mentioned a Schengen rule, and I took Pudsey's post to mean to point out that there it is doubtful if there is a 'union' if different countries are not consistent in the hoops they make people go through to register, thus the discussion about how the EU/ Schengen and their Member States deal differently with problems including registration.

Why should you be constrained to register in 90 days if I in Poland are given 180 days - unless there is a EU/Schengen over-riding rule, but is there?

It is all relevant to whether the average citizen is able to discern whether any country in any union is treating all citizens fairly. If you compare the requirements of France and Spain with other countries they are generally in most procedures difficult to comply with, which makes a nonsense, particularly for vehicles, which wherever registered. are allowed to roam freely within the EU.

If the requirements were all the same maybe you VeeVee might not be having to ask how in particular one has to do it in France.


The EU brief on techjnical inspections says any inspection in an EU country is acceptable, but Poland will not accept one.



Geoff
23-12-2020 22:22
veevee
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Originally Posted by raynipper View Post
We did our Hobby 750 5.5 ton Motorhome about ten years ago and it was challenging. Took six month and €950 in fees. But was worth it.

Ray.
Thanks for bringing this back to the purpose of the thread, but we all need to let off steam, unusual times.

Meant to write have read your earlier adventures in the US, looks like you had the time of your life, thanks for that too.
23-12-2020 21:43
dghr272 And there are those that complain when MH threads get political.

“Black @ss shouts the pot to the pan,” just remember who started it eh.


Who would have thought EU member states could act independently? BOOM

Terry
23-12-2020 20:47
raynipper We did our Hobby 750 5.5 ton Motorhome about ten years ago and it was challenging. Took six month and €950 in fees. But was worth it.

Ray.
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