It is indeed about getting the appropriate balance Peter. And when that's not right this is what happens -

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft....5-8e03987b7b20

https://www.leeds.ac.uk/news/article...ked_to_poverty

Yes bring back Mao Zedong - and Pol Pot whilst we are about it. Let's go back to an agrarian economy.

Leaving aside the tens of millions who died under those despots do you want me to quote the increases in life expectancy over the last 20, 40, 100 years etc? Or the enormous reductions in poverty and infant mortality etc etc. It's about getting an appropriate balance.

Yes bring back Mao Zedong - and Pol Pot whilst we are about it. Let's go back to an agrarian economy.

Leaving aside the tens of millions who died under those despots do you want me to quote the increases in life expectancy over the last 20, 40, 100 years etc? Or the enormous reductions in poverty and infant mortality etc etc. It's about getting an appropriate balance. If you want to go and live in a cave somewhere then up to you.

I'm actually thinking about an electric car I'm sure you'll be pleased to hear. Tesla is bringing out one next year that can do 0-60mph on less than 2 seconds! I'll let someone else worry about where the electricity comes from that will allow me to drive that fast!

I'll let someone else worry about where the electricity comes from that will allow me to drive that fast!

Just thought I would he mention he did say along the lines of unfettered capitalism was contributing to the demise of the planet.


Perhaps that is why peribro thinks the planet is not in danger as that would mean rethinking his politics.

You are right about the scheme, Barry but it is very complicated and many people think it is not worth the hassle. Air source heat pumps do not, as you say, heat the water hot enough for them to be safe in that bugs can grow in the hot water cylinder. You have to have an immersion heater, as well, that will do that.