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15-04-2019 13:29
Spacerunner Trouble is, especially in France there is so much street furniture, many different speed limits seemingly displayed haphazardly it’s somewhat difficult to know exactly what the speed limit is.
15-04-2019 13:24
Drew Both in the UK and on the Continent what distance must you travel before be penalised for speeding? From e.g 10 yds upwards?
15-04-2019 13:19
barryd
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I'm with Andy Just set the cruise control, where available, and relax.

An old boss of mine was always speeding (he was a vet and so often in a hurry). He arranged for us all, including himself, to undertake a session with an Advanced Driving Instructor. He returned from his session saying he was never going to speed again as it had been so relaxing just keeping to the speed limit and made little difference to the journey time.
Easy to say that but every single occasion ive been flashed in mainland Europe was when the speed limit changed suddenly and there was a camera shortly after the new limit. Clearly there to collect money. That rarely happens in the UK. Cruise control wont help you there in fact if your relaxing too much it could make it worse.

I remember coming into a city in Germany in four lanes of traffic doing about 110 kph and suddenly everyone slowing down for no apparent reason. I was concentrating on where I wanted to be and which lane to get into before I saw the new limit down to 80 or whatever it was and just hammered through it. Flash! clearly the locals knew about it.

Same in France when there is suddenly a drop down to 70 from 90 for no apparent reason then a camera. Its making sure you see the change in time and then having to brake hard to abide by it. To me it just means Im going to spend more time looking for speed signs and cameras than I am concentrating on driving. Its not like im hammering along like a mad man, just going with the flow and watching what Im doing.
15-04-2019 13:00
Matchlock
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I'm with Andy Just set the cruise control, where available, and relax.

An old boss of mine was always speeding (he was a vet and so often in a hurry). He arranged for us all, including himself, to undertake a session with an Advanced Driving Instructor. He returned from his session saying he was never going to speed again as it had been so relaxing just keeping to the speed limit and made little difference to the journey time.

I used to be always in a hurry when working until I bought a SatNav, I noted the arrival to destination time was always within 5 minutes of the Satnav estimation no matter how fast I tried to drive so just chilled out.
When the customer rang asking where I was I just gave them the Sat ETA which kept them happy.
15-04-2019 12:42
raynipper My last 'flash' was in roadworks that had been 90, then down to 80 and suddenly I saw the 70 sign too late and didn't reduce my speed in time.
Ticket came within a few days but by then we were in Portugal. So friend who has key to house found ticket and scanned how to pay and sent to me.

Ray.
15-04-2019 12:40
Mrplodd In the U.K. it is NOT lawful to have different speed limits on the same section of road. If it’s 50 in one direction then it has to be 50 in the opposite one (unlike the ludicrous 80kph one way and 90 kph the other on the 3 lane sections of French roads)

In addition any signage must be “Clearly visible and well maintained” i.e. not covered by vegetation (which many are these days) AND at the start of any speed limit there MUST, by law, be signs on both sides of the carriageway, if there are not then the limit cannot be enforced.

Dash cam footage has been used by many drivers to successfully challenge speeding convictions where the signage hasn’t been correct.

I am not condoning anyone speeding BUT there are very strict rules in place to ensure it’s “fair and equitable” and if the rules are not adhered to there should be no conviction.

See the below link. This section of road was the responsibility of The Highways Agency and NOT the County Council. It’s the H.A. who cocked up!!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-refunded.html

I remember all the fuss about it VERY well!!

Andy
15-04-2019 11:24
patp I'm with Andy Just set the cruise control, where available, and relax.

An old boss of mine was always speeding (he was a vet and so often in a hurry). He arranged for us all, including himself, to undertake a session with an Advanced Driving Instructor. He returned from his session saying he was never going to speed again as it had been so relaxing just keeping to the speed limit and made little difference to the journey time.
15-04-2019 10:38
barryd There are a fair few reports of fines for motorhomes coming through now so it seems the French at least are pursuing them finally. Some are reporting that they are taking months after the event to arrive though. I think there is no limit like there is here for the fine to be issued (might be 12 months). Fines seem to be 45 Euros generally for a minor offence.

The worry is if your away for a long trip and get flashed early on and they are quick in sending the fine out it could go up if its not responded to until you come home.

Its easy to say dont speed but some of these cameras in Europe are not as easy to spot as ours. Ive never been flashed or done for speeding in the UK for about fifteen years but last time in Europe in the van I got flashed twice in Germany and about four times in France and I certainly drive the van a lot slower than the car. Could mount up!
15-04-2019 09:34
Penquin
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At the risk of sounding like an old stuck vinyl LP............

The sure fire way to not get caught by ALL of these cameras is.....keep to the speed limit!!

Well that simple system has worked perfectly for me since my ONLY speeding offence back in 1972. I do 15-18k miles a year both in the UK and abroad so I am clearly doing something right. And somewhat proves my point doesn’t it? (I couldn’t find a “smug git” smilie to insert here)

Andy
Totally agree, that is the cheapest way to cope with these cameras wherever they are and whoever operates them......

It has worked well for me too, only one time caught out and that was questionable as the ONLY speed limit sign was several metres deep in the bushes and beside a parking space with an artic in it... no road markings and just off the motorway where the whole area was lit. The limit going the other way was 50 mph so that's what I was doing....

WRONG mobile speed van nearby clocked thirty or forty per hour..... I wonder why ?

Shortly afterwards a court case threw one offence out as road not properly AND CLEARLY marked. It now is..... with road markings as well as more signs on BOTH sides.... oh well bang goes that fund-raising opportunity.....!
15-04-2019 09:33
dghr272
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The motorway cameras are maintained by the firms who operate the motorways for profit. I wonder if there’s a connection???

Andy
I suspect they are regularly patrolled as well so any tampering is soon rectified. Given the sheer lack of traffic on the ordinary roads it wouldn’t be picked as easily, and any that are can quickly be disabled again by the local protesters.

Having once stopped on the side of a motorway due to a shattered windscreen it’s a scary place to be and best avoided if possible.

Terry
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