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Originally Posted by rayc View Post
As I posted on OAL earlier today, there is no outcry to ban outdoor BBQs in Public areas despite the carnage left behind. There is no move to Police well publicised Dogging spots. Turn up in a motorhome and you are on borrowed time.
So ... You can eat and get drunk or watch people shagging without worry ... as long as you don't arrive at these events in a Motorhome.
Originally Posted by iandsm View Post
Originally Posted by jiwawa View Post
Hi, Thanks. Yes, I think I can do that. The reason I put it in as an image is, sort of to show that it's from a genuine email.
Here's a copy of the text of each email. This shoiuld do it , i hope.
here is the info for the appeal. Please support it and forward the info to as many websites - britstop, facebook etc / and friends as possible - we have until the 6th August
be a bit descriptive about your support -
you have stayed here - reason for visit? Friends, Concert, Tourism etc what you did and spent
Ideal location etc
You want to visit or just want to support
MOTORHOME APPEAL INFO:
Applicants name: Liverpool Marina
Appeal ref: APP/Z4310/W/18/3203773
Appeal start date: 5th July 2018
Appeal online at:
Or send THREE copy’s of support to:
The Planning Inspectorate
Templey Quay House
2 The Square ,
CLOSING DATE: 6TH August 2018
and the amended email address::
Hi Tom we have discovered that the email address is incorrect
Try this one
Thanks for your help. I've long thought that the only hope for continued fairly free motorhoming is to campaign for aires on the contentinetal system and I support private as well as publicly owned aires.
Sadly, it is worse than that. They actively involve themselves in support of restrictions being applied.
Tom, I appreciate what you're doing there, and I'm trying to support you - but the Web address as given by Liverpool Marina can't be found - I THINK I've put it in correctly.
So I thought I'd use the email option but I really need to quote the reference number etc.
Is there any chance you could copy/paste those bits of info - at present they're in jpeg format.
If it's relatively easy to do I think you'll get more support from the folks here.
Only what I have seen along Exmouth sea-front and it has been disgusting - while it may be only a small number it seems to occur on a daily basis judging by the mess left there - even in winter so it cannot easily be blamed on others.
I do not like the bans that seem to be being introduced at a rapid rate in a number of places but sadly the evidence has been left in such places and locals are not happy to see it - they feel they are being abused.
To me any such bans are discrimination and I do not approve of that wherever it occurs but sadly until the "big" Clubs such as what used to be the CC and the C&CC unite and fight against it then it will proliferate -sadly both organisations seem content to do a Corbyn and sit on their hands....
I've received an email from Liverpool Marina amending the email address for the appeal.
I've sent my support by letter attached to an email to the amended address: [email protected]
penguin. When councils introduce restrictions they invariably accuse us of leaving a mess behind us and that this generates large numbers of complaints from the public. When I've investigated using the Freedom of Information Act there are never significant numbers of complaints.
Lincs Co Council was probably the worst. They said hundreds of complaints about mess at Huttoft. The true situation revealed by the FoI was two or three complaints (none about mess) and only about 24 for the whole of the county (none about mess). N Yorks said "numerous" for Scarborough- there were none. Fleetwood said "many" - there were none. I could go on.
In the dozen or so I've investigaged the pattern is repeated. The councils say the public complains - the FoI answer is invariably few complaints - mostly none.
The public outrage we're so sure exists about us is just not there.
Sadly many MH users have not helped their own case by overstaying their welcome in various places and leaving behind a filthy mess for others to clear up (usually the Council at their expense).
IMO permission to stop should be limited to say 72 hours with a ramped up price after that so that e.g. the £15 overnight charge would apply for the first three nights and then perhaps increase by £10 each and every night - that would deter people from staying too long.
The Planners may well welcome such a reassurance that users would not stay there like so many so called "travellers" do and the charge would be legally enforceable unlike the "Parking Charges" imposed by companies out to make money.
Just a thought that might be worth sharing (but would be unpopular with some people I am sure).
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