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21-12-2014 15:29
peejay
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Nicholsong wrote :- I am not sure how much this applies to the Italy-Patras routes.
For the past few years April has come into the low season priceband on the main I - GR routes, hopefully it will be the same for 2015.

Also worth noting that the 'Camping on Board' season starts 1 Apr for Anek and Superfast.

Minoan don't have a camping on board option but operate a 'camper special' all year round where you get a basic inside cabin and the van plugged in to ships power for the price of deck passage.

Pete
21-12-2014 14:56
nicholsong
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Originally Posted by delfy
My wise friend to the rescue. Thankyou Pete for your much appreciated advice and suggestions. Is Late April still too early for warmth in Greece during the daytime or should I wait until May? Also when does it start to warm up along the South east coast of Spain.
Delfy

Late Aptil should defintely be warm - when I am going to work on my boat in the E. peloponese I try to go no later than that as May midday can sometimes be a bit hot for work, or walking uphill in sunshine.

If you are a swimmer the it will not feel very warm entering the water from the warm sun - still warmer than UK in Aug, but I do not normally swim in Greece before June.

Remember Greek (Orthodox) Easter Sunday is 12th April 2015 and generally travel is more expensive at least a week either side of that, because for Greeks it is important to return to families for Easter. I am not sure how much this applies to the Italy-Patras routes.

Maybe peejay could come in again on that latter point.

Geoff
21-12-2014 11:25
jedi Hi Delfy,

I will follow your thread with interest as I am considering Greece next year. My thoughts were ferry from Italy in one direction and Romania, Bulgaria and Hungary in the other.

I have been to Hungary and have friends who loved touring Romania with their young family. Might be worth a thought.

Jed
20-12-2014 16:28
peejay
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delfy wrote:- Is Late April still too early for warmth in Greece during the daytime or should I wait until May? Also when does it start to warm up along the South east coast of Spain.
You can never be 100% sure nowadays but the Peloponnese should be warming up nicely by late April, all the spring flowers should be out too.
Not sure about Spain.

Pete
20-12-2014 16:17
GMJ Can I ask if anyone has driven the Hungary - Roumania - Bulgaria route? Aftar eall we are all EU citizens now

A trip down to Greece and Turkey is something we fancy in a year or two's time



Graham
20-12-2014 16:03
delfy My wise friend to the rescue. Thankyou Pete for your much appreciated advice and suggestions. Is Late April still too early for warmth in Greece during the daytime or should I wait until May? Also when does it start to warm up along the South east coast of Spain.
20-12-2014 15:41
peejay Hi Daf,

Can't help on the solo bit as its always been the two of us travelling but I'm sure a lady of your travelling experience around Europe and into Morocco will hold you in good stead for the trip.


Route wise we've always found the best way is via Belgium, Luxembourg, down through Eastern France via then into Switzerland via Basel then into Italy to Milan. Then either turn left for Venice or straight on for Ancona. Mostly toll free until Italy and of course the Swiss vignette assuming you are now under 3.5t.

If you think you'll be comfortable with aires and wildcamping along the way then I can list you places we've used over the years for the above. Can't help with campsites but that would depend on time of year you are going.

Ferry wise for Greece, you will probably have to wait until the new year before any firm prices are published although Superfast have put a few prices on their website.
Pay careful attention to the dreaded fuel surcharges, especially on the Venice route where they were very steep this year (50euro each way for a camper +1pax ) and are usually hidden in the smallprint.

If you're landing at Patras, looking at the map and assuming you're getting a further ferry from Killini, its only a relatively short drive between the two so you probably wouldn't need an overnight for that stretch. We have wildcamped along that stretch though, so can give you more info if req'd.

Its 2 years since we were last in Greece and then it was only to transit through the north to Turkey so maybe a little out of touch with the situation out there but I would contact Margaret and Barry on the magbaz website who visit regularly, they are very helpful and would be who I would ask for advice.

A snippet about the current situation and security inGreece taken from their website...

http://www.magbaztravels.com/content/view/1544/30/

Give us a shout if you need more help.

Pete
19-12-2014 21:29
Patrick_Phillips It does depend on where you ar going and which route you prefer to get there...
We use the Frejus tunnel to get across the Alps snd then it seems to make more sense to do Ancona - Patras.
The Venice route is 90 miles less driving but I remember last year the cost of the diesel was more than saved on the fare.

The campsite at Patras - Rion Beach appeared rather more than jus shut for the Winter. We went to Ionion Beach (SW from Patras) which was very satisfactory. But then we were travelling in January last year.

Patrick
19-12-2014 20:04
nicholsong
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Originally Posted by delfy
We used to make the trip each summer, in a variety of VW camper vans. That rear air cooled engine space was a gem for cooking meat in a tin foil packet en route!!
Don't fancy the haul through the former Yugoslavia on my own and the Venice ferry to Patras is great. It's the solo part that I need help with. Safe places to stop on the way to Venice and then in Greece. I'm ok on Kefalonia as there are friends to visit. Thanks for the help so far.
Delfy

Sorry if I was giving loads of stuff you know, but it was not clear that you had done the trip before.

As far as solo in Greece is concerned I have not done it in a MH but spent many years solo on my boat there and never had any problems. In general terms I find Greeks are respectul of a solo lady and do not hassle. However there are many more immigrants now and that does of course change the nature of the place, but most of the immigrants are concentrated in towns.

If you ever felt insecure I would suggest just diving into the nearest Greek cafe or taverna where I am sure you would be loooked after.

Geoff
19-12-2014 17:50
delfy We used to make the trip each summer, in a variety of VW camper vans. That rear air cooled engine space was a gem for cooking meat in a tin foil packet en route!!
Don't fancy the haul through the former Yugoslavia on my own and the Venice ferry to Patras is great. It's the solo part that I need help with. Safe places to stop on the way to Venice and then in Greece. I'm ok on Kefalonia as there are friends to visit. Thanks for the help so far.
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