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23-04-2014 16:59
rayrecrok
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Glasandra"]Well the whole Act is available to read online if anyone is interested http://www.zakon.hr/z/151/Zakon-o-ug...oj-djelatnosti
though I'm sure it will not change your mind Ray.
Hey up.

I have read it and it applies to nationals involved with catering and laws around that..

If you are parked up in a spot that is clearly for local and foreign visitors to stop in, and they haven't put up the no camping symbol, and you do not put any chairs tables or anything outside your van, you are deemed not to be camping even though you might be asleep in your van...

You might be asked to move and it would be prudent to do that, and who want's to wild camp in someone's back garden.. Choose you spot stay for the night and move on, some places you can stay longer, there will already no doubt be some local vans already there..

It's using your noggin like everything else in life, nobody is out to get you, folk would rather be nice and help, or that is what I have found.

ray.
23-04-2014 15:48
Glasandra Well the whole Act is available to read online if anyone is interested http://www.zakon.hr/z/151/Zakon-o-ug...oj-djelatnosti
though I'm sure it will not change your mind Ray.
23-04-2014 15:21
rayrecrok Hmm funny that I have never been asked to move in Croatia, Spain Sicily and Gibraltar yes ,but nowhere else in the 22 countries we visited... And only because we parked up with some local vans and they moved us all on, when ever we have been on our own no problems..

So not convinced...

ray.
23-04-2014 13:56
Glasandra Geoff - It's in the Zakon o Ugostiteljskoj Djelatnosti, which literally translates as The Catering Industry Act but generally known as the Tourism Act, Part V, Article 27. Sorry for any confusion. Hope that helps.

In fact since just looking it up I see I was wrong re the fines as they have changed to between 2000HRK and 15000HRK.
23-04-2014 13:22
hmh
Map for Croatia

In a lot of the places where you might want to wild camp, space is pretty restricted, the areas by the sea are beautiful, if it were possible everyone would do it.

It is a bit like Portugal, where for the same reasons, you might just as well give up and use a campsite.

In Spain on the other hand, there is often plenty of space !

Helen
23-04-2014 13:14
nicholsong
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Originally Posted by Glasandra
It might not be set in granite but it is set in law in Croatia, the law being the Croatian Tourism Act issued by Croatian Ministry of Tourism.

According to the Act camping outside legal campsites is forbidden and you can be fined up to 3000 HRK for doing it. Now it's up to you whether or not you are willing to break the law in your host country, but I felt obliged to point out to someone who is new to the area that wild camping is not allowed. They can then make up their own mind.

Interestingly it is legal to ask a landowner if you can spend a few nights on his/her land. The landowner shouldn't charge you for this as it is considered as kind of 'hospitable gesture’ and Croatians are very hospitable. Sometimes it's just a case of asking and you'll be welcomed.
Glasandra

You quote the 'Croatian Tourism Act'. Do you mean the 'Act for the Provision of Tourism Services' passed on 15th June 2007? If so, could you please quote the Article and paragraph which covers wildcamping?

Maybe I have got the wrong Act, as the one I have referred to only seems to put obligations on those providing tourism services.

Geoff
23-04-2014 12:41
Glasandra PS I meant to add that one of the reasons that wild camping is against the law in Croatia is the possibility of someone camping in an area where there are old landmines from the war. These are more likely to be found inland in and in out of the way spots. Total de-mining is not due to end until 2019.

Most of the country is perfectly safe and all tourist areas are but the OPs asked about camping inland and so this was particularly relevant. I didn't want to scaremonger by mentioning it at the outset but as I've been shot down about how safe it is to wildcamp in Croatia I will mention it now. A map of the areas yet to be de-mined is here http://www.hcr.hr/en/minskaSituacijaKarta.asp?ID=1.

The locals generally know where they are and avoid them, but would you?
23-04-2014 11:04
Glasandra I was not trying to put any 'impression' over. Just stating facts.

If people are unaware that they are breaking the law by wild camping might be surprised if spoken to by an armed policeman and asked to move.

And I'm not at all surprised by how you were treated. I've been travelling to Croatia for over 40 years and know them to be very friendly people.As I say if you ask you'll probably be allowed to stay on some's land for a night or two
23-04-2014 09:02
rayrecrok
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Glasandra"]It might not be set in granite but it is set in law in Croatia, the law being the Croatian Tourism Act issued by Croatian Ministry of Tourism.

According to the Act camping outside legal campsites is forbidden and you can be fined up to 3000 HRK for doing it. Now it's up to you whether or not you are willing to break the law in your host country, but I felt obliged to point out to someone who is new to the area that wild camping is not allowed. They can then make up their own mind.

Interestingly it is legal to ask a landowner if you can spend a few nights on his/her land. The landowner shouldn't charge you for this as it is considered as kind of 'hospitable gesture’ and Croatians are very hospitable. Sometimes it's just a case of asking and you'll be welcomed.
Hey up.

You might be surprised they don't get their guns out to shoot you or lock you up, they are very polite and say usually in English, "Sorry you can't stay here".. Say sorry and move on there is always somewhere else to stop they are not out to get you, the impression you seem to be putting over..

ray.
23-04-2014 01:30
Glasandra It might not be set in granite but it is set in law in Croatia, the law being the Croatian Tourism Act issued by Croatian Ministry of Tourism.

According to the Act camping outside legal campsites is forbidden and you can be fined up to 3000 HRK for doing it. Now it's up to you whether or not you are willing to break the law in your host country, but I felt obliged to point out to someone who is new to the area that wild camping is not allowed. They can then make up their own mind.

Interestingly it is legal to ask a landowner if you can spend a few nights on his/her land. The landowner shouldn't charge you for this as it is considered as kind of 'hospitable gesture’ and Croatians are very hospitable. Sometimes it's just a case of asking and you'll be welcomed.
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