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|pomme1||I have only seen pictures of one, but the rear track seems to be peculiarly narrow. I assume that this means that it's built on the bog standard Fiat chassis and not the motorhome specific one.|
Originally Posted by ob1
who in turn used Article R413-8-1
Did I miss something?
We looked at one at the N E C show. Lovely from the outside but on the inside they are definatley not worth the money IMHO. It has a porcelain toilet....WHY ?
I would not entertain one
|tyreman1||If i could afford one i`d have one tomorrow,west country motorhomes had the full range last time we were there and at the Birmingham show i was offered more than i paid for my van 2 years ago in part ex,just cant really justify an extra 20k.|
|ob1||I think that you will find that the new French speed limits for over 3500kg vehicles are 100kph (62mph) and 80kph (50mph) on Autoroutes/Dual C and Other Roads respectively. The 55mph I incorrectly mentioned is for towing vehicles.|
|davidgee||One of the main reasons I particularly like the look of the Aspire is the large sized kitchen. On the 240 rear lounge layout it's 2.18m (7'2") long. I don't know how I'd manage with the European small kitchens as I LOVE to cook and need space to be creative. A bed and a kitchen is all we need! If you know of any other motor-homes that fit this bill, let us know.|
You see, we digress a little but I do think the >3500kg issue is on the whole overblown.
Yes there are people without C1 rights (inc my wife for medical reasons), but it's those who passed their test after 1997 (so on the whole only those under 32), and those approaching 70 who don't want to go through the cost/hassle of retaining C1 rights. In 20 years, it'll be a restrictor on the market - 10 maybe - but not at the moment.
On speed limits, over here it's 70/60/50mph (motorway/dual/single-carriageway) for over 3500kg....so only loss of 10mph on non-motorways versus the limit for everybody else. In France it's 110/100/80kph, which according to my maths is 69/62/50mph, so broadly the same. Personally I don't really want to tank it along at more than 50 on a single carriageway road so no great shakes.
Tolls, fair enough, but ferry fares are typically driven by size...and having a van replated from 3500kg-->4005kg doesn't change that.
I do agree with you that magazine reviewers should point out when a given payload is patently inappropriate. Fundamentally the issue with the Aspire on the 3500kg chassis is it's an attempt to get a quart into a pint pot...you can't really add all the luxuries and things like Alde heating without incurring a weight penalty as well...they're approx 3-400kg heavier than the equivalent Avantgarde layouts.
|ob1||Davidgee - Sorry, but I didn't fully answer your question. Over 3500kg vehicles are restricted to 60mph on dual carrigeways and 50mph on normal 60mph roads in Britain. In France I think the speed limit on the Autoroutes is around 55mph now.|
With regard to licencing I'm glad that you will be OK but a lot of other people might not, those who will need to aquire the heavier license and those approaching 70 years of age who will need to start taking medicals.
Other restrictions with heavier vehicles are lower speed limits (really low in France now), more costly toll charges, dearer ferry fares, etc.
My last comment follows a series of 'winners' by such bodies who should know better. They concentrate more on looks, colour of upholstery and curtains more than the critical basic specs.
Originally Posted by ob1
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