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04-09-2016 10:00
GMJ Update on my on board unit

I came away from the CR not being able to locate a place where I could return this and so get back my deposit and any unused credit.

Upon returning home I emailed the authorities in the CR asking whether I could post it back. Initially they refused however I appealed and pointed out that I had driven around for an hour looking for a place; then stopped at a garage that sold top up but couldn't get a response (language difficulties); and stopped at another place on the motorway but again couldn't get an understandable response.

The authorities allowed my appeal because apparently on the route that I took out of northern CR, the nearest return point would have meant going to a certain junction; then crossing it and returning in the wrong direction to return the box! They were aware of the issue and were taking steps in the future to address this.

Anyway I returned the box (£8 with tracked and insured postage via the Post Office); 3 weeks later I received a credit of around £57 back onto my CC.

Its worth sorting it before you leave the country but this may offer some hope if you cant.

Graham
14-08-2016 07:57
nicholsong
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Geoff

Might be worth checking your routes through Austria as we did S to N last year (Italy to Germany) without hitting a toll road so avoided the on board box thingy. Worth a bit of research as it obviously isn't a big country so if you have time on your hands...

The roads are good too.

We fund it strange that we had to pay via the GoBox in Poland AND again on the toll roads (16.50 Zloty on those roads from memory)...especially as some of the roads were so dire.

Graham
Graham

I am aware that there are routes through Austria that can avoid toll roads, particularly at the West side but going from Poland to Italy around the Vienna area it is not so easy.

In Poland there were, and still are, toll roads before the ViaToll box system and all vehicles pay on those roads regardless of weight. At those tolls vehicles with a ViaToll box should go through the lanes on the right where the box is sensed and the barriers lift automatically, so if you had a box but still paid cash you went through the wrong lane.

We came through such a toll on the A4 on a busy Friday afternoon and there was a gantry sign in advance advising that the ViaToll lanes were also available for those paying cash, which was not the case in the past. The system has probably been introduced to reduce the queues at the cash only lanes.

Geoff
13-08-2016 18:38
GMJ Geoff

Might be worth checking your routes through Austria as we did S to N last year (Italy to Germany) without hitting a toll road so avoided the on board box thingy. Worth a bit of research as it obviously isn't a big country so if you have time on your hands...

The roads are good too.

We fund it strange that we had to pay via the GoBox in Poland AND again on the toll roads (16.50 Zloty on those roads from memory)...especially as some of the roads were so dire.

Graham
13-08-2016 17:25
nicholsong I agree that all these disjointed systems are a pain in the ....

Poland has a type of 'Go-Box' (ViaToll) for over 3500kg and charges via ganty-mounted roads, both Motoways and Trunk roads.

There are some Motorways with different toll booths for cars and ViaToll boxes.

Our MH was originally plated at 3500kg. We have used the Toll booths on the A4 Motorway for 6 years and never been questioned about our current weight. I believe that there are occasional weight checks but I believe they are aimed at overweight trucks not private vehicles, however have never seen a check-point.

I was informed by family Police contacts 3 years ago that there is no connection between the Polish authorities and DVLA.

We travel to Slowakia frequently but do no need toll roads where we go.

I will avoid Czech Rep, as we cannot get there easily without Motorways or negotiating mountain roads - too much hassle.

We may need to go through Austria next year and will get a GoBox, as I believe the Austrians do stop MHs to check weight.

Geoff
13-08-2016 16:51
aldra Whoops I was hoping as we crossed Austria we would classify as 350

We have upgraded but are necessarily more than 350

We just did it to be safe on weight

And we put the scooter on a hydra lift which didn't add to the weight

And air suspension for a better ride

But our V5 shows 3850

Didn't realise we needed to produce it

Sandra
13-08-2016 16:30
Webby1 Thanks again for the info................campsite recommendations from real people are always better.

I can see why you got the Go Box because of your size but I think we might just present the old V5 and claim 3500.............I don't suppose they link up with DVLA records.
12-08-2016 08:59
GMJ In your position I wouldn't bother tbh in the CR tbh. We only did it as we are a TAG axle and 8.7m long so perhaps would stretch the point regarding weight if stopped. I cant recall seeing any police on the roads in the CR anyway as they have a heavy reliance on cameras.

In Prague we stayed at ...

http://www.caravancamping.cz/

It was a good place: very friendly reception who spoke good English; decent size pitch; river view; lots of clean toilets, showers etc (NB The mens showers were communal which kind of reminded me of my rugby playing days!); 500m from a tram stop into town (and the site provides great instructions on where to get on/off and tram numbers etc); ridiculously cheap restaurant (£4.50 for a mixed grill, chips and salad!) with nice food and river views on the veranda; easy to find.

Prague itself was beautiful although the astronomical clock was pretty underwhelming. We had a xrink and food in the café/restaurant right next to the clock so had a birds eye view plus it wasn't unreasonable in terms of price.The squares are nice and the walk across the Charles Bridge is well worth it.

Graham
12-08-2016 08:44
Webby1 Thanks for that info Graham
The need for an emissions certificate is a new one on me.Probably useful for Romania and Bulgaria as well.
THe box seems such a complication and as you say expensive if you cannot drop it off anywhere.

I have an old copy of my V5 with 3500 before the upplating and of course the original plate from Fiat is still there so it's all very tempting to declare 3500 and unless we actually get weighed ??

We have lined up Triocamp and Camping Matyas for Prague so any observations on Prague are welcome.
I find it's the big cities and tourist destinations that tips are most useful.

Peter
11-08-2016 15:09
GMJ
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Would appreciate any updates on the Go Box system as we are planning a route taking in Bulgaria,Romania,Hungary,Slovakia and Czech Republic and I think they all need boxes for over 3500.

We have been upplated to 3850 and I am tempted to try to wing it with a vignette for under 3500 ............how do they tell)
It's the hassle not the cost.

I have read somewhere that there is an exemption for motorhomes over 3500 rather then good vehicles but any new information very welcome.
Getting one entering Poland was not a great experience. The young lady who served me was singularly the rudest person I have ever met. I will be puting in a complaint to the issuing authority in the next day or two.

The CR system was quite easy. The lady who served me spoke some English and was very helpful. You will need your Passport; V5; Certificate of Conformity; and your CC. The CofC shows your VIN and the emissions class. You pay a deposit for the box and then an amount of pre load depending upon where you are planning on driving to. When you leave the country you chop the thing in and get a refund.

The website shows places where you can pick up and drop off the box. If you are lucky then as you leave one country and enter another, you can drop off one and pick up the other at the same time. This happened when we left Poland and entered the CR. It would be worth planning some routes and making sure that you can putt co-ordinates into your satnav: this will help locate the issuing/returning locations

We struggled to locate a place to return the Box when we left the CR so we still have it! I will be emailing them to see if I can post it back and get my refund (c£45 for the box from memory) as I cant believe that I'm the only one who has done this.

Lastly I wrote up some useful sentences in English and translated them into Polish and Czech so that I was armed with them to show the person serving what I required. It didn't work in Poland as the girl was so rude and dismissive she wasn't interested. I got some sympathetic looks from some German coach drivers who tried to help.

Some roads in Poland are absolutely DIRE and they still charge you for them. The roads in the CR were generally better but some were still roapy so watch your speed. Lastly the CR is awash with speed cameras. It will be interesting to see if anything arrives in the post!

We really liked both Poland and the CR: Prague is beautiful. We stayed near Frydek-Mistak; Brno; and in Prague. I am happy to let you know where if you want (and also my thoughts FWIW).

Graham
11-08-2016 13:58
Webby1 Would appreciate any updates on the Go Box system as we are planning a route taking in Bulgaria,Romania,Hungary,Slovakia and Czech Republic and I think they all need boxes for over 3500.

We have been upplated to 3850 and I am tempted to try to wing it with a vignette for under 3500 ............how do they tell)
It's the hassle not the cost.

I have read somewhere that there is an exemption for motorhomes over 3500 rather then good vehicles but any new information very welcome.
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