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post #21 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-02-2016, 00:24
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That is the point. It is not legal in the UK to tow using an A Frame. The fact is it is not ILLEGAL as no statute has been passed on the subject.
Have you read the post date of the post you just quoted.


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I do like old stuff--- Like old slippers, may have a few holes but something comforting. I have towed a Smart for 10 years all over France and the UK. I now tow a Suzuki Celerio ( good name I know ). That's only got 2 pedals like the Smart. I love it when the experts come out and wind everyone up. I'm so pleased we worry about the important thinga in life, Right where are those slippers.
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Oops how did we stray from bike racks to a-frames ? anyway good morning to everyone it will soon be deckchairs out. YES
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Have you read the post date of the post you just quoted.
Yes Barry but legislation hasn't changed.

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Yes Barry but legislation hasn't changed.

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It doesn't need a change to legislation.
All it needs is for a test case to be brought, under existing Road Traffic Act regulations.

But the A-framers claiming it's legal still haven't yet been queuing at their local Police station asking a copper to charge them for A-frame use, so the CPS can bring a prosecution at magistrates court, which can then be appealed to Crown Court which would finally establish legal precedent in England and Wales.

Maybe members could lobby the CC or the CCC to get their King/Lord/Godhead or whatever he's called nowadays, to drive past a copshop with a-frame, waving, and asking to be arrested, to get the ball rolling.

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The point is it doesn't need a test case as it's legal until or unless someone says it isn't. And given that the DfT has said that in their opinion it's legal, I don't lose any sleep over it.

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Peribro (Peter] please stop being so sensible and right. It spoils it a bit. Ok I know the Department of Transport have no problems with a frames, but what do they know ? Its down to our members to make the rules . Government interference again.
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BUT (don't you just LOVE that as a start....) Napoleonic Law gives you the right to do something, unlike UK which tells you what NOT to do.... so in many of the EC countries their interpretation is based on what they have been told they CAN do - hence in countries such as France and Spain if you come up against a Police officer that was assembled on P.O.E.T.S. day, you may well find he (or she0 was asleep during that bit and they may take exception to the fact that you look happy.....

This is particularly apt in Spain, 'cos they are unhappy if ANYONE looks happy and if that person happens to have a GB sticker then that gives them hours of fun as they try to find a way to boost the coffee funds, or clear the National debt depending on their mood....

There have been reports that users of A frames have had no problems at all in Spain and Portugal...... sadly there have also been the opposite and there does not seem to be much rhyme or reason to it....

I am neither pro or anti such devices, why would I be as I don't use one or wish to do so as we would not take a small car with us (bikes suffice for us) and with our French registration we are happy being in the centre of towns and cities creating chaos.....

But of course, each to their own.....

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What detail has the reflective sign in Portugal. France is the same as England but I was told today that Spain and Italy have their own idea as to the width of the red stripes. Spain the red stripes have to be wider and if it doesn't conform the fine is 60 euros. As yet I haven't found the criteria with regard to Italy.
I believe that in the UK the board should strictly be triangular rather than square.

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In some countries you have to drive on dipped ha=eadlights all the time (not just swedwn) NB includes Switzerland.
They like to see you switch on at the border.

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