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post #11 of 56 (permalink) Old 18-05-2017, 19:24 Thread Starter
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Thanks kev I am aware of the regs

it is a legal plated towbar

but it may have been modified a bit.

i am a mechanical engineer by trade.
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Well what's the next bit ?

Im not great but Albert is

Email me and I'll give you our number and you can talk it through with himself

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thanks Sandra i will try to do so next week

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Thanks kev I am aware of the regs

it is a legal plated towbar

but it may have been modified a bit.

i am a mechanical engineer by trade.
If it's "modified" in any way whatsoever then any "Type Approval" applicable to it will be invalid because it's no longer in its original "As manufactured" state.

Also be sure that the item you are looking at has some form of suspension, if it doesn't (earlier ones didn't have any) then it doesn't comply with Con & Use regulations. There have been previous very lengthy posts concerning Hydra-Trails, worth reading BEFORE parting with your money.

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I don't think I've seen one with suspension, bet they're expensive.
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If it's "modified" in any way whatsoever then any "Type Approval" applicable to it will be invalid because it's no longer in its original "As manufactured" state.

Also be sure that the item you are looking at has some form of suspension, if it doesn't (earlier ones didn't have any) then it doesn't comply with Con & Use regulations. There have been previous very lengthy posts concerning Hydra-Trails, worth reading BEFORE parting with your money.

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Thanks Andy i am aware of all of that info.

for some strange reason the type approval for motorhomes only came in to force in 2012 so i am before the cutoff

http://www.armitagetrailers.com/mhometowbars.htm

didnt want to reopen the debate (Its a bit like the Toad one ....) just to have a look at one.

if i had time i would build one but being a youngster in my 40's and working full time i need a solution that will work for now.

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There is this solution, but not sure I'd want to use it for a bigger bike, and not sure what effect it would have on the transmission, and bearing in mind rear tyre life, a long trip might need a few tyre changes, even though it is normally due to power input.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/?iid=302318...4537626&chn=ps
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hi all

i have a 2012 registered m/home also with a home made tow bracket

i made it mainly as a bumper and also to mount my motorbike bike rack

i may be wrong but having 1 fitted is not against the law but using it to tow is

andy please shed some light on that

thanks

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A tow bar is still a tow bar both by design and manufacture, even if you don't use it to tow with! If you buy a pick axe as a garden ornament it still remains a pick axe.

I think you will find that the requirement is that any tow bar "fitted" must be type approved, the manner of its use is immaterial. If you make your own towbar, use it to carry bikes, and then sell the vehicle on, the new owner may subsequently wish to use it tow the max permitted weight of trailer and be unaware the home made towbar MAY not be up to the job. THATS why the requirement for type approval is in force, to protect from possible component failure.

A while ago I had an issue with my Autotrail chassis flexing when towing. I liaised closely with PWS towbar of Poole over it. They showed me the tech spec for the Type Approved towbar they make for Autotrail. VERY highly detailed and VERY complex, no way they could be made without sophisticated workshop facilities AND they were required to keep records of where all the materials used were sourced from and when. (My problem turned out to be with the original Fiat chassis being too weak, the towbar was fine)

It's a technicality BUT the above scenario is entirely possible isn't it? (I know you could tell a future purchaser, but what if it's traded in??)

Rules and regulations often seem unnecessary but they all have a sensible purpose when you look closely.

I would certainly not even think of fitting a non type approved tow bar fr all of the above reasons.

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You also get a label on a pukka towbar warning of max nose weight, which I believe is largely ignored if what I see on the roads is anything to go by, and I've yet to see anyone weighing, or any kit so to do.
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