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I use an HP Pavilion laptop which has Windows 10 on it. Its a model LAPTOP-2JRG6ORL with an Intel Pentium CPU 4415U @ 2.30GHz Processor and installed RAM of 4.00 GB (3.89 GB usable).

NB: I copied all of that blurb from above from the computer as it means literally nothing to me

I use it for internet stuff (websites, looking at Youtube vids, porn, internet shopping etc. I don't download or watch catch up or TV on it...aside from putting on BT Sport and running it through an HDMI lead through my TV (as LG smart tellies don't have the BT Sport app installed annoyingly!).

I use it for writing documents - just holiday itineraries, letters etc. I use Libre Office as I'm too tight to pay for MS Office.

I use it to download some pics off my camera just for putting on websites (rare).

I use it for copying documents over off my printer/scanner in case we need to email them.

Now the problem is, is that it is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO slow! I regularly get freezes and when I check Task manager it shows that the Disk Space is at 100%. I also regularly get Memory at 100% as well.

EDITED TO ADD: The CPU also regularly shows high numbers on Task manager too!

Firstly is there anything I can do myself to try and improve performance (Please remember I am a complete Luddite when it comes to laptops, IT, computers etc)

Secondly if not, can I take it into a computer shop and get it upgraded somehow or are we looking at a new device? If so what would I ask for?

Thirdly, if I am looking for a new device what should I look out for to ensure I get a good speedy reaction when I use it.


If I can provide any more info to help your answers please let me know (and walk me through it gently) and I'll gladly oblige.

Ta very much

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You didn't list or indicate the Hard Drive capacity and whats left. Click "This PC" and it should show.

Can you see just how much space your pics are taking up? Do you do a clean now and again with something like Ccleaner? For starters.
Someone will be along soon and suggest a full reinstall of Win 10 soon but it is very time consuming and you will need to 'save' all you files to an external.

I'm just updating an older HP laptop at the moment trying to get the latest Win 10 updates. Luckily it does have an SSD drive so not too slow. Bought second hand off e-bay a few years ago just for travel £129. But now the camera has decided to not function.

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Cheers Ray

It says...

Windows (C): 841 Gb free out of 916GB

Recovery (D): 1,61GB free of 13.2GB

Is that what you mean?

No haven't done a clean...

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Well to me that looks like you have lots of HD space. Which seems a bit odd to me. So I can only assume storage is not the problem despite it saying it's full.

Sorry G, I don't know. But clearing cookies and junk off might help a little.

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Your problems are this. Firstly its getting on a bit, secondly its only got 4gb of RAM and thirdly I suspect that hard drive which is a 1gb is the original HDD (Mechanical hard drive) from when you bought it.

Yep it will be really slow for sure. You can try clearing stuff out, snake oil registry cleaners, removing programs from start up etc etc but it wont make much difference. You could do a factory reset and then spend days reloading everything and that will make some difference but ultimately its under spec'd now.

If you wanted to keep it there are two things that will dramatically increase performance. The first is replacing the old Hard drive with a Solid state SSD hard drive. As you hardly seem to be using any of the current drive you will probably get away with a 256gb SSD, although 500gb are not much more now. The second thing is more memory. 4gb of RAM is barely enough to just run Windows these days. 8gb or even 16gb would see a marked improvement.

However if you are not up to doing this yourself (memory is easy, replacing disks not so much) you would need to factor in a local IT shop to do it for you so maybe get some quotes for that but whatever you do. Back up any important files before you hand it over to the local guru just in case.

If you were my client however I would advise you to just get a new one and go for the highest spec you could afford then factory reset that one and stick it on Ebay for beer money or give it to me and ill flog it for you 50/50. I rarely keep a laptop more than three years to be honest but I do wear them out.
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Thanks Barry

I was hoping you'd pop along

These upgraded bits you mention: could you give me some ball park prices on them and also how long it would take to do them in terms of a computer shop? I'm only trying to get a rough handle on price to upgrade.

In terms of changing my laptop for a new one, starting at say £500 and moving upwards - what would you recommend (make/model etc) in order to address the magic stuff that you talked about above?

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Thanks Barry

I was hoping you'd pop along

These upgraded bits you mention: could you give me some ball park prices on them and also how long it would take to do them in terms of a computer shop? I'm only trying to get a rough handle on price to upgrade.

In terms of changing my laptop for a new one, starting at say £500 and moving upwards - what would you recommend (make/model etc) in order to address the magic stuff that you talked about above?

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Difficult to say really. Your best bet is to find a back street guru (maybe ask for local recommendations on Facebook etc). The important bit if you are not IT Savvy is to find someone who will clone the drive / transfer your Windows OS and files etc. Its no good them just fitting the drive and leaving you to do all the other bits yourself. Maybe £100 or thereabouts and perhaps £50 for the memory fitted if you are lucky. Its not something I would do for clients as it would work out much more than that and not be economically viable. There are guides on the internet if you fancy having a go yourself but there are a lot of things you can come unstuck with.

As for a new laptop. Ive supplied a lot of the Honor Magicbook 14 laptops this last year or so and I even got one for Michelle and they are a really nice build and feel much more high end than the price tag suggests they would. They are a sister company of Huawei I believe. https://www.hihonor.com/global/produ...r-magicbook14/

General spec I would go for would be

i5 or Ryzen 5 processor or better
8gb of RAM minimum, 16gb Better
256gb SSD Drive (500gb better)
Long battery life if away in the van and fast 65w charging (not essential but Michelles Honor is very fast to charge on the invertor)

Stick to well known models, HP, Lenovo, Dell etc.

I would always recommend a Windows 10 Professional OS as well as this generally means the laptop is a business model rather than a home consumer model. Again not essential but generally machines that are business class rather than consumer models "Windows Home edition" are a better build.

Prices have soared though in this last year or two. You need to be well north of £500-600 now inc VAT for a decent entry level machine of that spec
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Baz how would you rate a recon one from someone like Laptops Direct?

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/nav/.../c/refurbished

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Baz how would you rate a recon one from someone like Laptops Direct?

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/nav/.../c/refurbished

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Your link didnít work for me, is this any better in relation of where you linked to land?

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https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/st/refurbished-laptops

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Yes G. I don't profess to know much just what Baz has let slip at times. But I did buy a super Desktop Lenovo last year on Baz's recommendation and it's brilliant.

Like this https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/leno...uk/version.asp

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