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post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 18-09-2016, 16:04
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Hi Geoff.
Just looked at both my 2000 Fiat motorhome and 2003 VW Golf and the VIN numbers are in position 'E' on the Carte Grise or Log Book.
So reading the registration document a letter E is before both VIN numbers.

But our more recent Tiguan has no such lettering.

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Now I am getting a bit confused.

The OP showed an example of a VIN number immediately preceeded by a lower-case 'e'

As Ray wrote above the VIN number on documents, by international convention, is positioned under section/paragraph E.

My UK V5C has

'E VIN/Chassis/Frame No. ZFA XXXXXXXXX (Fiat VIN number)'

Our Polish car equivalent has 'E' then a bold vertical line separating it from the actual VIN number

None of this seems to relate to what the OP wrote with an 'e' immediately preceeding the number.

So do some VIN numbers actually get written with an 'e' immediately preceeding the number or are we on a wild-goose chase here?

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It's time to make a cuppa Geoff.

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No idea, I've got an e number but the van was first registered in Germany and is LHD.

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Normally there are upper-case letters at the start of the VIN number which identify the manufacturer and then contiguously the actual number of the individual vehicle.

So where is this 'e' positioned?

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No idea, I've got an e number but the van was first registered in Germany and is LHD.
Yep, mine also.

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@Hi, GMJ; Thanks for your post. bc109 was a very common transistor way back, good for almost anything.
Now it is long forgotten and totally useless.......I have some affinity with that ! If my name were Oscar
or something, I might have the tag OC71 which was a much earlier transistor.
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Hi, Nicholsong. Glad someone is searching for e numbers. Many thanks.
e numbers:
Example: my 1997 Saab has the e number as follows: e11*93*81*0006*03
This is above the VIN number which starts YS3.....
By the way, this is on the chassis plate under the bonnet, near the scuttle.

“e” is for Europe as this is a European system; countries outside of the EU may use a
different protocol. “11” is the country, in this case I think Sweden but the number relates
to where the approval was granted, not necessarily where the vehicle was made.
“93*81” is the applicable European directive. “0006” is the actual approval number
for the directive. “03” indicates that the homologation has had two changes since the
original number was issued."
Don't quote me on this......I am following someone else's advice.
Homologation simply means the item is a standard type.
The COC is usually issued by the manufacturer, but a techno can inspect the vehicle ( just to make sure that nothing untoward has been added or removed ) and issue a "ficha" in lieu of the COC.
I understand that motor cars were given e numbers long ago. But I don't know exactly when these standardisation numbers began for motorcaravans. Hence my original posting
Hope that helps !

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Update

Looked at a Hymer dated year 2000 yesterday. The "e" number was stamped as the first line on the weight plate which was situated on the skirt near the cab door.
So that means Hymers were added to the standardisation lists as early as 2000. Haven't managed to see any earlier than this.
In the meantime, we are aiming to buy a Hymer from the year 2003, and the local paperwork experts have already assured us that it will be valid for importation to Spain because we have obtained the "e" number for it.
We are waiting for someone in Germany to have an eyeball of this vehicle before going ahead.
We also understand that Hymer will issue a Certificate of Conformity ( not free ! ) on request if accompanied by the appropriate paperwork. This might well be cheaper than a Spanish technical inspection to issue a "Ficha Technica " in lieu.
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