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post #41 of 43 (permalink) Old 11-04-2009, 10:30
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Hi Chris,
I think they must have. Its a great innovation because it keeps the roll dry, but the it is a sod to thread through. Had to make a threader for it.

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Hi all, I have been reading this with a big smile on my face While it is nice to have all the things mentioned,beeny boxes, extra cupboards etc etc has anyone thought of why manufacturers put open shelves and silly sunroofs at the front of vans where cupboards should be ? COST and weight At 50k a van should have all the toys but straight away I can see a premium of 5k on the base unit as opposed to Fiat etc, then the cost of a highly desirable monococ which I assume is going to be a modern looking one hopefully.The VW is only rated at 3.5 t so again weight is going to be a big factor,ruling out a lot of the above B/Boxe's etc.Do people want cupboards ? as opposed to open shelves ?I know I did(Sorry we did,I did not quite get all my own way )
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Yep, I think Terry has highlighted possibly the two most significant factors that influence design.

Not having a prod at anyone on this thread , but folk often want to have all the extras and goodies, but then tour the shows looking for the cheapest van they can find. The two criteria are mutually exclusive.

Then the weight factor, which again is a self destructive philosophy. More goodies equals less payload and lots of anxious nail biting every time you approach a layby full of yellow jacketed gentlemen!!!

Trouble is, items of equipment that count as "basic essentials" nowadays were largely optional extras a few years ago.

This means that the starting point for both cost and weight has increased quite significantly in comparison with vans of even only 15 or 20 years ago.

Hmmmmmmm. Autosleepers designers have a tough job in hand!!

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