The main problem with the manual/autos, is if you don't get on with it you're either going to be stuck with it or lose a bundle getting rid of a van you don't want to drive.

Another thing is it'll be main dealer every time it goes awry as your average garage muckyneck wouldn't know what to do with it, and what are used values going to be like too.

Very interesting reading your thoughts on the Comfortmatic's, I honestly think that a test drive of say 4 to 5 miles is a complete waste of time. I agree on the first and second gear shift when setting off, but this is no different to a manual box in my opinion. It did take time to get used to it, now I drive mine (In Auto) from a standing start to sixth gear without the bobbing backwards and forward in my seat, even the wife sitting in the other seat has noticed how smooth the gear change is. No one has mentioned the Up function when towing, which is a good idea and works a treat. I would definitely buy another.

Dill