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post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 13-08-2019, 10:36
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Crikey! Marker lights are so cheap and easy to replace, whatís the problem!

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Crikey! Marker lights are so cheap and easy to replace, whatís the problem!

Of course.


However in post no. 9 I said I do not understand DVSA thinking that they are not in construction and use regs.as an item to be fitted, but are a safety item in the MOT. if fitted. They are either a safety item, and if so should be required in both, or they are not a safety item and should be in neither.



DVSA thinking is what I am challenging.


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The MOT can't be expected to compare and ensure every vehicle complies with the complete Construction and use regs.
So its reasonable to test lights that are fitted that "are often" fitted for safety.

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The MOT can't be expected to compare and ensure every vehicle complies with the complete Construction and use regs.
So its reasonable to test lights that are fitted that "are often" fitted for safety.



The vehicle is 16 years old and the test of side marker lights only came in this year, so on your reasoning it was unsafe for 15 years.



Also if they are needed for safety why does not the same organisation responsible for testing require them in Construction and Use Regs?


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Seems sensible to me that if they are a fitted option they should work.

Bit like my two rear fog lights if only one is working it’s a fail.

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The vehicle is 16 years old and the test of side marker lights only came in this year, so on your reasoning it was unsafe for 15 years.



Also if they are needed for safety why does not the same organisation responsible for testing require them in Construction and Use Regs?


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Because the MOT tester wold have to have an MOT test specific for every variant. That's not practical so they have a "std" test

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The vehicle is 16 years old and the test of side marker lights only came in this year, so on your reasoning it was unsafe for 15 years.



Also if they are needed for safety why does not the same organisation responsible for testing require them in Construction and Use Regs?


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Same as all vehicles were unsafe for over 50 years as they didnít have seatbelts fitted.
I believe itís called progress. 😉
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Same as all vehicles were unsafe for over 50 years as they didnít have seatbelts fitted.
I believe itís called progress. 😉

I might agree with you that it could be considered 'progress' if the side lights were mandatory under Construction and Use Regs., but they are not, unlike seat belts.
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I thought they were mandatory depending on vehicle length, I have sailed through MOTs in the past with one or more not illuminated. Mind you my MOT man has a white stick.
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I thought they were mandatory depending on vehicle length, I have sailed through MOTs in the past with one or more not illuminated. Mind you my MOT man has a white stick.

So did our MH in previous years. I believe they were only included in the test about 3 months ago.


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