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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 10-04-2017, 09:36 Thread Starter
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A few thoughts

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The first one would be interesting for my hairdresser.

The salon senior staff were on their own on Wednesday; all the apprentices were off at college doing an intensive maths catch up course. They have to have GCSE maths at grade C or above in order to continue with their apprenticeship and not one of them has it.

We agreed that some knowledge and understanding of maths was vital for them but not the full monty. Having to do it all was likely to mean that one or two of those with potential as hairdressers were likely to have to drop out. As they had huge difficulty finding apprentices in the first place the staff are not best pleased.
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They need to know if you ask for your hair to be cut in inches or centimeters maybe
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They need to know if you ask for your hair to be cut in inches or centimeters maybe
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My hairdresser also reckons they have problems if she asks them to make up colouring solutions and the like. They can't work out what to do if asked to add half the quantity of water or dilute the solution 50:50. Same with timings. She has to set the timer herself rather than giving instructions like " just add another 10 minutes " etc.

Worrying really.
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Maybe the saloon should change their style of instruction, remember one size does not fit all.
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Scotland used to offer an O-level in Arithmetic as well as 1 in Maths.

When I moved to teach within the English system I thought a great pity that they didn't.

In my opinion everyone needs arithmetic in their everyday life but not everyone needs maths.
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Scotland used to offer an O-level in Arithmetic as well as 1 in Maths.

When I moved to teach within the English system I thought a great pity that they didn't.

In my opinion everyone needs arithmetic in their everyday life but not everyone needs maths.
I have an O level in Arithmetic, had no maths teacher for 2 years, head was supposed to do the teaching but he just read out question and answer in a book, no explanations. No help. Got 100% for the Arithmetic though
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And I bet you've done just fine with the arithmetic n no maths!
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So who cars about that character Pythagoras or what an isausages triangle is or what calculus was....

When did you last use a slide rule (I know some engineers still use them), or log tables (not seen those since 1975) and so on......

sadly such junk is typical of VERY many GCSE and A level specifications - often compelled by the Government to be included.......

The Government regularly uses statistics to befuddle everyone; lies, damned lies and statistics and you (and they) can use statistics to justify anything (think a recent budget and whoops we just realised we got it wrong).

The A level I taught had the following break down for the final result;

40% of the final mark comes from the ability to interpret data (draw graphs, use tables that sort of thing)

40% of the final mark comes from "How Science Works" in other words why you cannot trust shampoo adverts or why it takes so long to develop medication (and even then they can get it wrong; http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/pro...the-drug-trial )

that leaves a grand;

20% of the final mark comes from the knowledge of the subject they have learned.......

I suspect such figures indicate why the content of current exams is as mis-guided as it was when we took them 60 years ago.......

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And I bet you've done just fine with the arithmetic n no maths!
Certainly did, had no problem working out medicine doses.
Watched a degree nurse trying to work out dosage once, containers had 600mg dose was 400mg, she insisted that she needed 2 vials, couldnt even work it out right on the calculator.
Now one of the tests that has to be passed is drug calculation, Without use of a calculator, glad they have brought back the 'times tables' in schools.
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