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Have you never even tried wildcamping? I did it all over the UK for a couple of years - there are several counties which publish available CP for MHs, but generaly I just pulled up on a verge, away from houses and gateways.

What is the problem?

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Speaking as ex what are now called expeditionary forces, I'm firmly of the view that there's no such thing as wild camping in a motorhome (or a caravan or tent for that matter)! Bivvying, that's wild camping but camping off grid in a motorhome isn't wild.


Me and my colleagues (who are ex RAF Support Helicopter, Fleet Air Arm Junglies or Army and used to bivvying), were discussing how people refer to off grid camping as wild camping, the conversation went roughly like this:


One of the team mentioned somebody had been parked up in a verge near them in a motorhome for a couple of days...


Me: "Some motorhhomers call that wild camping".


After much guffawing and scoffing (which went on for a long time), the conversation carried on like this...


"But you're in a motorhome, you're not freezing your knackers off, getting wet, getting trampled by the local wildlife and you don't have to dig a scrape to have a poo!"


"I know" I replied,


"What's so wild about that"? they asked,


"You don't have lecky or water" I replied, matter of factly,


"We refer you to our earlier comment, you're not freezing your knackers off, getting wet, getting trampled by the local wildlife and you don't have to dig a scrape to have a poo!" they replied,


"I know" I replied,


"So there's nothing actually wild about it" they pressed,


"Not really" I replied,


"All of those times you had to bivvy out on Salisbury Plain or Stamford or Otterburn you would have killed to be tucked up nice and warm in a motorhome wouldn't you"? they asked,


"Absolutely" I replied,


"And you wouldn't have called that wild would you"?


"Nope"! I replied,


"So what do you call the type of camping this bloke (referring to the motorhomer parked up in the verge), was doing wild camping would you"? they asked,


"No, at best, it's off grid camping" I replied.


Some still scoffed at that but we moved on to something else after that.


But like them, I'm ideologically opposed to calling off grid camping wild camping. I suppose the only wild bit is getting rid of your black waste but it's still not the same as digging a scrape is it?


I guess it's all about perspective really. I must say I don't miss the taste of hexamine in my food either.


Apart from that, the wonderful MrsWez is against the idea and wouldn't settle and if she's not a happy camper, I won't be (she's all right with aires and FP, taking the view that you're meant to be there).

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OK it's not really 'wild' camping but more like 'sensible' camping. Or as one RV manufacturer put on the spare wheel cover "Roughing it Smoothly"

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OK it's not really 'wild' camping but more like 'sensible' camping. Or as one RV manufacturer put on the spare wheel cover "Roughing it Smoothly"

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I think that's a good way of describing it Ray
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Of course its not wild camping, but certainly off grid. And I for myself, of a certain age, can't be bothered anymore lying under a wet tarp, clammy sleeping bag while trying to make a fire in the rain. Nah, as Ray said, roughing it smoothly it is for us. Still a lot of fun to be had making the right choice on where to pull over for the night. Right along the Silver Sands at Morar or Loch Earn where they give you 3 nights in a laybay right by the Lochside.

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Speaking as ex what are now called expeditionary forces, I'm firmly of the view that there's no such thing as wild camping in a motorhome (or a caravan or tent for that matter)! Bivvying, that's wild camping but camping off grid in a motorhome isn't wild.


Me and my colleagues (who are ex RAF Support Helicopter, Fleet Air Arm Junglies or Army and used to bivvying), were discussing how people refer to off grid camping as wild camping, the conversation went roughly like this:


One of the team mentioned somebody had been parked up in a verge near them in a motorhome for a couple of days...


Me: "Some motorhhomers call that wild camping".


After much guffawing and scoffing (which went on for a long time), the conversation carried on like this...


"But you're in a motorhome, you're not freezing your knackers off, getting wet, getting trampled by the local wildlife and you don't have to dig a scrape to have a poo!"


"I know" I replied,


"What's so wild about that"? they asked,


"You don't have lecky or water" I replied, matter of factly,


"We refer you to our earlier comment, you're not freezing your knackers off, getting wet, getting trampled by the local wildlife and you don't have to dig a scrape to have a poo!" they replied,


"I know" I replied,


"So there's nothing actually wild about it" they pressed,


"Not really" I replied,


"All of those times you had to bivvy out on Salisbury Plain or Stamford or Otterburn you would have killed to be tucked up nice and warm in a motorhome wouldn't you"? they asked,


"Absolutely" I replied,


"And you wouldn't have called that wild would you"?


"Nope"! I replied,


"So what do you call the type of camping this bloke (referring to the motorhomer parked up in the verge), was doing wild camping would you"? they asked,


"No, at best, it's off grid camping" I replied.


Some still scoffed at that but we moved on to something else after that.


But like them, I'm ideologically opposed to calling off grid camping wild camping. I suppose the only wild bit is getting rid of your black waste but it's still not the same as digging a scrape is it?


I guess it's all about perspective really. I must say I don't miss the taste of hexamine in my food either.


Apart from that, the wonderful MrsWez is against the idea and wouldn't settle and if she's not a happy camper, I won't be (she's all right with aires and FP, taking the view that you're meant to be there).
So why do you have a motorhome then?
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So why do you have a motorhome then?

Precisely because I used to have to bivvy for a living - not out of choice!

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There's a good forum for off grid camping which might be worth your while joining.

You won't like the name though as its called wildcamping.co.uk

If you join you will have access to 000's of off grid camping spots via an interactive map and app.


PS Loving the avatar of Roobarb. I went to school with a lad who got the nickname Custard as some of us thought he looked like the purple cat! A bit unfortunate especially when he joined the Police after school and we'd see hi out on the beat! Difficult to impose order when regaled with: "Alright Cust, how are you?"

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There's a good forum for off grid camping which might be worth your while joining.

You won't like the name though as its called wildcamping.co.uk

If you join you will have access to 000's of off grid camping spots via an interactive map and app.


PS Loving the avatar of Roobarb. I went to school with a lad who got the nickname Custard as some of us thought he looked like the purple cat! A bit unfortunate especially when he joined the Police after school and we'd see hi out on the beat! Difficult to impose order when regaled with: "Alright Cust, how are you?"

Thanks for that, you're right, I don't like the name but it is what it is. I'll take a look. I don't really see how so-called wild camping is much different from turning up at a rally and being without EHU etc.





Love the Custard tale, reminds me of when I was in the RAF and one of the lads took a commission, when he turned up at our unit some years later he'd given himself a more officer like name, needless to say we all remembered his nickname. As you say, difficult to maintain authority when people are calling you by your old nickname.
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I think the thrust of the site is mainly for single units to wildcamp/off grid rather than rallies. It's a great resource tbf and I think it would suit you. There's an active, friendly forum as well.

Whilst I don't go off grid myself, I have updated the stopping places around where I live for any folks who like wilding (sorry...off gridding!)

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For us we consider wilding to be off the beaten track. We have never stayed on a campsite since we started in a tent 16 years ago.
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