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post #11 of 16 (permalink) Old 24-01-2018, 20:46
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Whereas in la belle France speed limits are to be reduced at a stroke w.e.f. July 1st.
I'm thinking of getting a Voiture sans Permis for travelling through France as it will soon be able to keep up with the flow. I read that it is possible to drive one from 14 years old and also if you have lost your Permis due to a violations such as drink driving.
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Well would you believe it "Highways England will STOP building 'smart' motorways without permanent hard shoulders as boss admits they are not working because they're 'too complicated'"

They also admit that "40, 50 or 60mph limits were being set before congestion mounted on 'smart motorways' in England, using predictions about traffic levels."
"Data has showed that 72,348 people were fined on motorways with variable speed limits last year. This was almost double the number a year earlier and a tenfold rise in five years. Of those, two thirds of fines were handed out to motorists travelling at 69mph or below, even though the national speed limit is 70mph."

I wondered why you can cruise round a non smart bit of the M25 at 70mph but as soon as you get to a smart section the limit is set to 60mph or lower. Now I know that it is because the computer said so.

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Smart motorways were a dumb idea.
There have already been fatalities and the cost of the conversions is eye watering.
Too many motorways are restricted to 50MPH for years on end to convert the hard shoulder to the extra lane.
Its just madness to try and cope with the volume of traffic.
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Improve bus and rail links don't assume cars are king.

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Yep agree

As long as the bus and rail links are outside my home

Doesn’t require me to walk far

Because even though I want the best for the environment

My limbs would never make it

As many others find

But on a cheerful note

I’m not challenging the environment as far as travel is concerned

I rarely leave the house

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They could do with a smart road down the western side of the Peak District through Longdendale. No chance of getting a speeding fine there. I feel for the residents who cannot get through their own town on account of the unending flow of trucks and cars using that route across the Pennines. Easily a half hour hold-up through there to the Manchester Ring Road. No wonder there are signs urging frustrated motorists to support their push for a bypass. In fact it's a pain the whole way over from Worksop. Truckies going at 28mph!!! Grrr.

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They could do with a smart road down the western side of the Peak District through Longdendale. No chance of getting a speeding fine there. I feel for the residents who cannot get through their own town on account of the unending flow of trucks and cars using that route across the Pennines. Easily a half hour hold-up through there to the Manchester Ring Road. No wonder there are signs urging frustrated motorists to support their push for a bypass. In fact it's a pain the whole way over from Worksop. Truckies going at 28mph!!! Grrr.
The money to pay for the upgrade of motorways to smart ones has been at the expense of the trunk road network which has had minimal investment.
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