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post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 15-02-2015, 21:43
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now i see mr plod are using a lorry and camera to see down more in to cars
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How about having plods with designated tasks, such as just going after peeps who use phones, none seat belt wearers etc, leave real plod to get on with protecting communities, lower wages, easier to train, and a more effective plod force.
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I was having a conversation at lunch yesterday with OH's Polish policeman son who said the local force pay for overtime on Fri and Sat night to catch people outside bars drinking on the street, which is not criminal but a 'fineable offence', however it contributes to 'clear-up' statistics

Maybe similar is happening in UK.

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I just read online that smoking in cars with children is to be made illegal. Not sure about e-cigs.

But who is going to enforce the law ?.

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I just read online that smoking in cars with children is to be made illegal. Not sure about e-cigs.

But who is going to enforce the law ?.

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................................................ Same people who are supposed to impose the ban in work vehicles but don't bother Trev

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My none smoking boss used to check the van after I'd gone home, gave me a bollocking one morning, until I reminded him that I'd taken a mate of his home who smoked in the van, not being an employee the law didn't apply to him, got a bonus that week he felt so sheepish.
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Same people who are supposed to impose the ban in work vehicles but don't bother Trev
The enforcement of the smoking in works vehicles legislation is down to Councils. Police are not involved.
http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/environme...n-enforcement/


The Police can enforce the smoking with a child in the car law similarly as they can for child restraints etc. Local authorities would also be able to enforce the proposed regulations, by authorising appropriate officers, but would not have the powers to stop moving vehicles.

I found this bit interesting:

"For some people, their vehicle may also act as a home, for example a caravan or a motorhome (or motor caravan). The proposed regulations would apply to such vehicles when they are used as a vehicle but not when they act as a home or living accommodation. The proposed regulations include an exemption for a caravan or motorhome that is stationary and not on the road. A road is defined as having the same meaning as in the Road Traffic Act10 and covers any highway where there is public access including verges, lay-bys and car parks if there is a public right of access. A vehicle stopped in a car park or grass verge would be considered to be on the road and so the proposed offences would apply in such circumstances "
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...g_children.pdf
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So you have 2 children aged 15 and 17 who are both smoking in a MH parked in a lay-by.

Who can be prosecuted?

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Depending on how badly they were injured I would try and put them out and call the fire service and ambulance.

Did you say persecuted.

Both children could not have bought cigs. If they make it, the person who bought the cigs and the person who sold them will be guilty of an offence.

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