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post #21 of 23 (permalink) Old 02-01-2019, 16:10
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Originally Posted by erneboy View Post
Any UK style risk assessment would rule that out completely.

Alan I think you would be correct in terms os the dock workers and passengers/vehicles.

However I saw nothing wrong in the handling of the ferry itself.

I think at the plannng stage a UK Risk Assessment would have concluded that the quay is too exposed and too low for the proposed operation in advese conditions.

British ferry ports, at least those within my experience, have been designed with moles and docking systems with adjustable ramps and huge fenders.

Greece does not have the infrastructure nor money, but for a lot of islanders the ferry is their lifeline, for food medicine etc. - do they take the chances with flooded quays or running or of insulin?

When I was first using Greek ferries 40+ years ago often they had to anchor in the bay and transfer passengers via the ramp to local fishing boats - that in a seaway was more dangerous as one could be straight into the water.

I once sat it out stern-on to the quay in a force 8 in Astypalea for 3 days.

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I understand why they do it Geoff. I was merely remarking that despite both the UK and Greece being in the EU and thus, notionally at least, conforming to the same Health and Safety standards, the Greeks get on with doing something which would get the people responsible into a world of sh!±t in the UK should such a video come to light.

I spent my last 20 years at work trying, successfully luckily, to stay on the right side of the Health and Safety legislation. We even had one very serious dangerous occurrence involving a parked aircraft (or whatever the equivalent of parking is in aviation) in which nobody was injured. I was asked to produce my risk assessment and answered honestly, that the possibility that what had happened could possibly ever happen had not occurred to me. Thankfully my clients agreed that the possibility had never occurred to them either and left it there, after our insurance had paid for the damage of course.

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Pity our Brexit masters haven't been asked the same requirements.


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