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Fiat14ducato 01-11-2020 14:19

Fiat ducato 1993 2.5td engine swap
 
Hello,
So i have a first gen Fiat ducato with a 2.5td 70kw engine(code: 8140.27) engine. But I would like to know if I could fit a more powerful engine from a newer generation ducato: either 2.5tdi 85kw (code: 8140.47) or 2.8idtd 90kw (code: 8140.43). And my main question is if I could do that with the original 2.5td gearbox? Because if not then it is just too much of a hassle and probably not worth bothering.

EJB 01-11-2020 17:40

I suggest you contact the experts on the Ducato forum:-

https://www.fiatforum.com/ducato/

WilliamJones52 02-11-2020 14:09

You can always consider some sort of chiptuning, changing air filters or adding a turbo if you care about it. From what I know, the Ducato hasn't changed that much, so it shouldn't be an issue to swap the engine. It would be the most simple solution.

pagey 02-11-2020 14:17

this has been discussed many times before although anything is possible this conversion will require the gearbox as well as modified driveshafts..chip tuning is not possible as the engine has a mechanical pump either live with it or change the van

eurajohn 02-11-2020 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamJones52 (Post 3120233)
You can always consider some sort of chiptuning, changing air filters or adding a turbo if you care about it. From what I know, the Ducato hasn't changed that much, so it shouldn't be an issue to swap the engine. It would be the most simple solution.

I'm sure you posted your reply with best intentions, unfortunately you obviously do not have the necessary information to help the OP.

I think the later 2.5 td will go in without too much problem depending on years without a gearbox change.
Any of the 2.8 variations will need extensive works and extensive other parts, pagey's reply below has got it about right.


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Fiat14ducato 05-11-2020 12:37

I am asking because my 1993 camper has been burning a little bit of oil ever since I bought it, but now it's appetite is increasing and I need to do something about it.

And as I am concerned from your answers 2.8idtd conversion is not possible without gearbox adapter, or any extensive internal changes like discussed here: https://talbotoc.com/another-2-8td-e...ion-t8777.html

But there might be a possibility to fit in later 2.5tdi 85kw without a gearbox change, right?

Fiat14ducato 05-11-2020 15:07

And why exactly 2.8idtd isn't a possibility? Doesn't it fit the gearbox?

eurajohn 06-11-2020 21:45

There have been many changes and updates done through the years to the Sevel vans, more so on the gearbox than the motor.

Without knowing your mechanical capabilities or what workshop equipment you have available it's difficult to try to make precise recommendations.
Given enough ability and equipment it is possible to do just about any transplant, add to that there are reducing amounts of donor parts nowadays.

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Martha2 24-11-2020 12:43

hi, we also have a 1993 Fiat Ducato Hymer 544, let me know the outcome as we could do with an extra power. Also does your vehicle have 14 inch wheels as we are looking for new 14 inch steel wheels and are struggling to find, many thanks, Dave

Fiat14ducato 10-12-2020 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martha2 (Post 3123941)
hi, we also have a 1993 Fiat Ducato Hymer 544, let me know the outcome as we could do with an extra power. Also does your vehicle have 14 inch wheels as we are looking for new 14 inch steel wheels and are struggling to find, many thanks, Dave

No, my one has 16inch wheels, your probably has a weaker engine or something


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