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post #31 of 143 (permalink) Old 18-03-2016, 15:13 Thread Starter
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No one yet has told me why we should stay in, or why we should leave.
Until there some facts available, not from the media, How can one decide.
As said already us old 'uns can remember pre 1975 and Ted Heath, prior to decimalisation. All countries had their own currency it was part of the fun of travelling to feel like a millionaire with hundreds of bank notes in your pocket, inside for English, left for French and right for Italian.
However there were restrictions on travel allowances in and out of the UK.That have long gone thank goodness.
The attitude recently has shown up deep rooted feelings that a lot of Europeans feel about us, not pretty when seen either, we will always be considered as those British.
Some figures tell me that we export more to non EU countries, is this a fact. How about imports.

So exactly what is the advantage to us to stay in.Maybe another subsidy for politicians to spend unwisely.

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So we have had 70 votes so far, not many considering all the chattering that went on in other posts, or are we down to just under 100 members this year.
Perhaps I made an error in not including a Don't know vote.

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Although I voted to leave, I was 100% for leaving, fed up with Brussels ruling us, but as time goes on, I am becoming more open minded and will continue to listen to both sides of the debate
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So we have had 70 votes so far, not many considering all the chattering that went on in other posts, or are we down to just under 100 members this year.
Perhaps I made an error in not including a Don't know vote.

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The pollsters tell us that 1 in 5 voters have not yet made up their minds.

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So we have had 70 votes so far, not many considering all the chattering that went on in other posts, or are we down to just under 100 members this year.
Perhaps I made an error in not including a Don't know vote.

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I do not think so, if you had "on the fence" you would get a lot of those so it does not give a fair indication. I have a friend doing his own straw poll and he has loads of dithering friends. Your poll was a clean black and white one, like it will be in June. Although its only 70 I believe it is indicative of the mood.
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I'm not sure that the motorhoming fraternity quite matches the wider demographic of the country either

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Which ever way you look at it, we are MUCH BETTER OFF in the EU than outside!


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It looks like the ins are gaining ground on here now as well. I think it was 35% in 65% out last week.

Now nearly 42% to 58%

Its the undecided that will swing it in favour of staying in I believe in the general public. I suspect there will be much more evidence for staying in promoted over the coming weeks by Cameron and the in team and the clear message will be the grave doubt of voters being worse off financially if we leave and people will vote for what hits their pockets less which is an IN vote.
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You say this barryd, but where is the proof of this statement you have made.Just how will we be better off financially if we stay in, rather than pull out.

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You say this barryd, but where is the proof of this statement you have made.Just how will we be better off financially if we stay in, rather than pull out.
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Think you missed Barry's point; he's predicting that's what will happen.
In part I agree with him. There will be a lot of scaremongering statements put out by the politicos that we'll be worse off if we quit, most people won't question it but will vote for what looks like being best financially for them personally.
Unless one of the tabloids comes out with a 'VOTE LEAVE' headline on the morning of the poll in which case people will foloow that, as has been demonstarted in the past.

On a more general note, if you wish to make an informed decision, then inform yourself! It does take some time and effort, but the answers to most questions are all in the public domain and researchable on the net. Just ask google the right questions, choose your words carefully.
As an example I'll quote the Q above about what proportion of our exports are to EU countries or the ROW.

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Nobody has a crystal ball and hard facts of what will happen either IN or OUT are impossible to state. The internet is awash with opinions though as said by David and the information is out there but you have to try and sieve out the biased garbage from the informative and impartial.

This report is quite interesting (and worrying if we leave). http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-bri...-idUKKCN0VL0ZB

One thing for sure is the biggest reason OUTERs are voting out is immigration and as has been said many times now by myself and the "Inners" I am not convinced we will have more control over Immigration if we leave as we may well be forced to join Schengen and have no mainland border control any more on the EU Mainland. Be careful what you wish for.

I think its pretty certain though that our economy will suffer and goods imported will cost more. So inflation may go up as will interest rates, the pound will weaken and your food and goods will cost more. So once voters realise or believe that they will vote to stay in. I could be wrong as could all the economists and experts but do you want to take that chance only to find out we still dont really have that much control anyway?


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