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post #21 of 143 (permalink) Old 16-03-2016, 00:30
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Trouble is after 40 years in the EU it actually isn't as simple as that
Apparently there are large numbers of people throughout the world who are addicted to servitude.
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This is what the Germans think about us leaving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Y8...ature=youtu.be


Well that arsehole can pay our 15 £billion fee.


that merely aids brexit LOL


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Have to agree that they have not a clue regards understanding humour, especially ours.

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There is not such a big gap at the moment, which has surprised me. Have you voted, if not why not.

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Have to agree that they have not a clue regards understanding humour, especially ours.

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"They" are probably not alone there Cabby...

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There is not such a big gap at the moment, which has surprised me. Have you voted, if not why not.

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Yes...good isn't it. Hopefully closing all the time too

I voted: to stay in

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Well I guessed that,

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Well I haven't voted because I am still very much an undecided. There seem to be very good arguments for both options, but as usual it is difficult to filter out the truth from the spin. It now appears that we voted to join because Ted Heath withheld vital information from the electorate, who (if anyone) is telling the truth now. That also assumes that anyone does actually know how much being a member is costing us, how much we get back in subsidies and where all the money goes and/or what problems we may encounter by being outside of the Union. My first instinct is that all politicians are liars with ulterior motives for everything they do, the newspapers etc all provide biased reporting so where do we go to get the facts? I'm hoping that by June I might be better informed. If not, and I suspect in common hundreds of thousands of the electorate, the decision might be made on a whim at the very last moment.
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It now appears that we voted to join because Ted Heath withheld vital information from the electorate, who (if anyone) is telling the truth now.
A common mistake that many people make.

We never voted to JOIN, we had no choice, the politicians took us in. What we did have, or at least those that are old enough to have had a vote back then did, was vote in a referendum whether you wanted to STAY in the EEC. None of us have ever had a vote on being a member of the EU until now!
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We never voted to JOIN, we had no choice, the politicians took us in. What we did have, or at least those that are old enough to have had a vote back then did, was vote in a referendum whether you wanted to STAY in the EEC. None of us have ever had a vote on being a member of the EU until now!
To quote from Wkipedia :

"The European Economic Community (EEC) was a regional organisation which aimed to bring about economic integration between its member states. It was created by the Treaty of Rome of 1957. Upon the formation of the European Union (EU) in 1993, the EEC was incorporated and renamed as the European Community (EC). In 2009 the EC's institutions were absorbed into the EU's wider framework and the community ceased to exist."

What we are in now is not what we voted for in 1975 and it has been an abuse of democracy by successive governments not to have put this to the electorate before now. Of course had it been then we would most probably have voted "No" but now of course there is much scaremongering about why we have to stay.
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