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Nothing wrong with folk trying to regain their heritage, preserving language is a great way to start.

In Ireland thousands of our local townland, town and village names were changed with the Englishification brought in by our new English masters.

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I feel it's change for the sake of change, I also think that it could be seen as separatist when we should really be looking at community in the wider sense, I don't think that the Scots, Irish or Welsh are exactly lacking in identity, they are rightly proud of their heritage and known worldwide.
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I'm not sure which set of statistics are totally accurate but it's claimed that around 20 to 28% of Welsh residents speak Welsh.

This figure is dropping year by year which suggests it's the older populace who speak the language and subsequently are decreasing as old age takes its toll.

It always used to irritate me when all road signs are in two languages in Wales, and Brittany in France has a similar situation, meaning signs are twice the size that should be to accommodate the two sets of words despite 99% of Welsh residents speaking English.

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Just call it both. Imagine all the maps, literature, guides, signs etc that would have to be changed if Snowdon or Snowdonia was dropped completely. Even worse, imagine asking for directions! I can have a stab at French but Welsh? No chance.
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The opposite here in the Basque Country the use of Basque is increasing as it is taught in all schools its the older generation who dont speak it due to it being banned by Franco strange the main street language is still Spanish in the towns but in the villages its Basque i have learnt enough to get a drink and read the menu
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Just call it both. Imagine all the maps, literature, guides, signs etc that would have to be changed if Snowdon or Snowdonia was dropped completely. Even worse, imagine asking for directions! I can have a stab at French but Welsh? No chance.

Who paid for all the signs to be changed before?
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Just think of all the things that will have to change when "E11" get changed to William V.

Uniforms, stamps, post boxes, etc.

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The only time I've been to Wales we went to Llandudno back in the late 1950s, Yana was on at the Theatre, and because of my tenuous parental link to that country I learnt to say Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch - and can still recite it even now.

A totally useless thing to remember - but that's been my life so far .......
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I feel it's change for the sake of change, I also think that it could be seen as separatist when we should really be looking at community in the wider sense, I don't think that the Scots, Irish or Welsh are exactly lacking in identity, they are rightly proud of their heritage and known worldwide.
Of course they’re proud of their heritage but trying to undo changes imposed by a ruling class can only strengthen it further, perhaps that’s what some fear.

Looking for ‘community in a wider sense’ is commendable, unfortunately as recent events prove it’s not delivered by HMG, even for the much discussed English North/South divide. Given that, it’s little wonder other regions push to strengthen their heritage and yes perhaps move to a separatist mindset, such as is currently playing out regarding Scotland and NI.

Personally I see it as the almost inevitable beginning of the final death throws of the British/English Empire, all the other colonies have gone for similar reasons.

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