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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 04-10-2020, 11:25 Thread Starter
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Attenborough's dire warnings.

David Attenborough is undoubtedly a very experienced environment expert. His dire predictions of extinction and pollution of the planet are of interest to us all for our families futures. But although he has been banging on for decades about the obvious effects we are having on the planet we take little or no notice.
Rare breeds and animals are threatened and much of our flora and fauna is either dead or in decline besides polluting our seas.

We are all responsible for this state in as much as we are the consumers who drive the destruction of the Natural World in favour of some very unnatural crops to feed our consumer society.
Why is it knowing what we do today do we keep up this buying frenzy of pointless must have items to end up in landfill?
For the next 2+ months we will be deluged with adds promoting totally pointless gizmos for Christmas? Why do we want all these 5 min wonders that rarely do anything to enhance our lives and only add to the land fill we are all guilty of creating?

Lemmings have nothing on humanity.!

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He is a person I gave followed for more than 40 years, it may be his film teams but the quality of videos that have been aired have not been surpassed IMO.

His views on the environment have become increasingly clear over the last 10 to 15 years, we all remember his interview with President Obama in which they laid out the route ahead.

Sadly, Trump has chosen an eco-destructive pathway whenever he can, he has never even shown the slightest regard for the natural world.

So Attenborough v Trump is inevitable and there can be only one winner, the environment us now recognised as absolutely central to the younger generations - people that Trump has ignored to his peril.

Hopefully the Trump era will finish very soon, in which case I expect that America will return to sense.

Attenborough is as inspirational now as Diana was 30 years ago.

His demise will provoke national grief. Let's hope it will be years away.....
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But my point Dave is we ALL contribute to our demise.

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Sorry, should have actually addressed the point that you raised, totally agree we are ALL responsible and need to take action.

12 weeks away is the biggest excuse for junk each and every years, hundreds of tonnes of plastic and massive amounts of Xmas paper that cannot be recycled due to the shiny surface.

We are using the isolation to ensure just ONE present for each grandchild, and each to be wrapped in recyclable plain brown paper, secured by string not adhesive tape. That way we hope that the impact will be reduced, not eliminated, but reduced, no plastic permitted of course.

Our prime present for each of them is a printed on paper BOOK - those items that no longer seem to be promoted..... We will NOT be buying Boris's biography, but Attenborough's would be good....

"A Life on Our Planet" by Sir David Attenborough publish date October 6 2020 would be a great choice IMO.
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The warnings are widely know in the educated parts of the world but selfishness will be our downfall, in then years time little or nothing will have been done and by then it will be too late we will spiral down into oblivion.


We are already seeing the signs of bees dying out all over the world, when they die off we will soon follow.
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But my point Dave is we ALL contribute to our demise.

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Very true Ray and there are huge commercial interests trying to persuade us that it will be alright in the end and it’s naysayers that are concerned with global warming, smoking tobacco, burning fossil fuels, campaigning against single use plastics etc, etc, And those commercial interests have eager accomplices in the Libertarian Right that they politically fund.
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Those of us of a certain age, who grew up during rationing, and had "make do and mend" parents get it. So, how do we convince the younger generation?

Having said that, Chris's mum went through the war years, was a widow on very low income, and so should have been thrifty, but was not. Her attitude to anything that was old was "just chuck it down the shute" (they lived in a flat) and buy a new one. So, is it up to parents? Chris is very much like his mum whereas my brothers and I are much more frugal having lived with our, very frugal, dad. No lights were ever left on, we only heated one room in the house, toilet paper was rationed etc etc.

Is it the same people who refuse to abide by the Covid 19 restrictions that also refuse to alter their lifestyle?
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if the behaviour during Covid is anything to go by, I wouldn't expect much restraint from the younger generation in how they purchase or re-use things, they just don't care, live now pay later seems to be how they think.
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if the behaviour during Covid is anything to go by, I wouldn't expect much restraint from the younger generation in how they purchase or re-use things, they just don't care, live now pay later seems to be how they think.
I think that's very unfair Kev. Any of the demos I've seen have lots of representatives from the younger age group.
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I gather there are grants up for grabs for green stuff in the house but apparently finding an approved supplier to do the work is proving difficult. I was reading up on air source heat pumps earlier which can apparently replace your traditional boiler and I think they are pretty green and there is some scheme where you get money back from the government and it pays for itself over seven years. They don't sound that great to me though in that they don't heat the water from the taps or in the radiators to as high a temperature so you have to run them longer and make sure your Insulation is up to scratch
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