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PC brigade double standards

OK "PC Brigade" as a general term.
It's always seemed ironic to me that the PC Brigade or certain sections of our community can object to 50s and 60s humour like Monty Python, Benny Hill, Faulty Towers, Dave Alen, etc. due to some overly sensitive minority group calling the shots to control what everyone else can and can't watch and enjoy.
Especially as todays media constantly shows full frontal bonking and expletives throughout most 'drama' and or Films today. Then theres more full frontal fat or mutilated bodies with some pretty revealing surgical procedures that can make me cringe.

Do we have double standards here?

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This PC brigade seems to me to be a very flexible term Ray.

They seem to include anyone who ever objects to anything on the grounds that is seen as offensive, or even possibly so by them or even often by others who don't even need to be specified in many cases.

In my opinion the term is and always was pretty meaningless.

There's no identifiable brigade. In my opinion people who object to Monty Python or other comedy probably don't watch it. I'd call them interfering busy bodies, or possibly the Whitehouse/Paisley Brigade. Those two certainly objected to plenty. Double standards? Not sure in what way. I don't think they condemn comedy and then watch it. Never heard Paisley's dead parrot monologue. Whitehouse may have had a dirty laugh, but nobody knows because she never laughed.

How you you define the term Ray?
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Thats why I started off with this phrase, OK "PC Brigade" as a general term.

I think it's a generally accepted description as you say Alan of those who object to what has possibly been acceptable previously and due to changing attitudes is no longer acceptable to all.

But my point was the standard of 'entertainment' today could be described as different levels of acceptableness.

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I just wanna know what media Ray is watching with full frontal bonking (is that even possible?). Do you have a link Ray?


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Flesh & Blood last night came close. Then theres some of the reality get me i'm a celeb type progs I never watch.....
But there have been quite a few raw, earthy, dramas like Lady Macbeth etc.
I'm not complaining about "Full frontal bonking" just pointing out how daft we can be in objecting to some harmless humour and yet tolerate what would be intolerable just a few years ago. 'Watershed' just doesn't mean anything.

Oh yes Baz, you don't watch 'live' TV now do you??

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Thats why I started off with this phrase, OK "PC Brigade" as a general term.

I think it's a generally accepted description as you say Alan of those who object to what has possibly been acceptable previously and due to changing attitudes is no longer acceptable to all.

But my point was the standard of 'entertainment' today could be described as different levels of acceptableness.

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Yes Ray. Views do change as time passes and attitudes evolve. Now we don't trade in slaves yet in the 1750s it was such a respectable trade that even the clergyman who wrote Amazing Grace, John Newtown became a slave ship Captain. It is well documented that when movements against the buying and selling of human beings began the people involved were disapproved of. They'd have been called The PC Brigade if anyone had thought of the term.

Many examples are available.

I think the Wikipedia entry is right "The word brigade, originally used to describe a military unit, can also be used as a pejorative collective noun to describe an informal group of like-minded individuals with views with which the speaker disagrees. It is used as a mild term of disapproval or contempt, or in an attempt to belittle and ridicule the subject."

Standards in entertainment have always been on the move. The Black and White Minstrel Show, Alf Garnet are gone but in those days there was no swearing and now there's pretty much nothing that can't be said. Better or worse?
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... full frontal bonking (is that even possible?).
I did wonder that myself.....!!!
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So elsewhere Ray you are saying that you have "internet" problems and I have naively been blaming AOL! Is the truth that you have been watching something you shouldn't have been and they've got wind of you?!!
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Full nude bonking

Gosh I really am getting old

Seen it done it

And when I see it on the Tv

Well it is what it is , normal behaviour once upon a time

So let them get on with it whilst they can

I just watch the drama that unfolds beyond it

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So elsewhere Ray you are saying that you have "internet" problems and I have naively been blaming AOL! Is the truth that you have been watching something you shouldn't have been and they've got wind of you?!!
Yes Peter, the terrible BBC and ITV live transmissions. And as for Channel4 and 5 well it can get very steamy.
Yes it's 'natural' Sandra, except when it isn't.? Like a dozen starlets or 'celebrities' sitting around in a confined space mindlessly prattling on about nothing and people actually watch it.?

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