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Chris Packham is right. We are doomed.

We have it in our power to save the planet but we won't.

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Its taking over as the next social media pissing contest for sure. You would think for once it would be something most people could agree on.


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Yep, Nero fiddling while Rome burns comes to mind.

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Who is "we" Ray? You are doing your bit by recycling all you can. I am doing my bit by doing the same and buying organic and local and plastic free etc when I can. Our generation, generally, always turn lights off and heating down and think before making journeys in the car.

My old, reactionary, Maths Teacher was right, I think, to blame advertising. Once it became big business we were doomed to want different because it was better or bigger or faster.
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But we are drowning as we run out of water. WE need to reduce breeding and consumption. Seeing the plight of those MeggaCities frightens me.

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The program is being repeated tonight on BBC2 at 11.15 pm.
I personally feel we should all be aware of the planets problems.!
Taxing companies is not the way to combat our demise but just move more cash to the Exchequer.

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The Dinosaurs became extinct even though they had more common sense than we have!

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But did they do it to themselves Ted?

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My friend, who is very “green” and very aware environmentally nevertheless states that she will not stop flying which strikes me as a tad hypocritical. Until all aircraft produced are the ‘cleaner’ variety should we not refuse to fly for pleasure? Is it too naive to say that although we are insisting world governments DO something, which of course they must, aren’t we, the ordinary population the ones that can REALLY make a difference, the ones with the real power? We are billions of people after all who could make a phenomenal contribution by ditching our diesel vehicles (and motorhomes!) plus wherever possible buying our vegetables ONLY when in season and our meat plastic free and ONLY buying home produced goods, not flying off on holidays, keeping white goods until they die of old age, plus a million other ways to help. We will all state we do our best, but do we? We, I suggest, do as much as we want to do before it crosses a personal line. China is the biggest pollutant but where are all the phones we love made? How do Extinction Rebellion communicate with each other? The oceans are polluted with plastic, so why doesn’t a significant portion of the population just stop using it? I see people with carrier bags all the time which in my opinion should cost at least £1 each. It seems to me that although the will is there many of us are simply not prepared to make those further sacrifices. I’ve got an iPhone and an IPad just like my other half, a diesel motorhome, a petrol car and I fly. I want a safer and healthier planet and I do my bit most certainly, but I won’t be giving up my iPhone or iPad anytime soon or my motorhoming holidays. I am a hypocrite plain and simple. I am part of the problem.
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If you are, Linda, then so am I. I do not have an iphone but I do have a laptop and ipad. I try very hard to buy locally produced meat, fruit and veg. I watch all my utility bills like a hawk and try to shop weekly rather than daily in the car. If I can find them I buy wool or cotton clothing but their production is not pollution free I choose plastic free when I can get it. All my cosmetics like shampoo and conditioner etc are cut open to retrieve the, several days worth of, product that refuses to come out otherwise!

It galls me, however, when I visit my brother in America (very rarely) and see that it is socially unacceptable to hang washing out to dry on a clothes line! They all tumble dry their clothes when the sun is blazing down outside! No one drives around in an old car. These cars are all gas guzzlers. No one walks on the golf course, they all have buggies. The snowbirds fly off to Florida every winter and leave the heating on full blast in the huge houses in Minnesota where it regularly gets to -10 to -15 C and often much lower!

It makes me feel that my sacrifices are pointless
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