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Poverty my arse.

We now learn half the kids in UK are in 'poverty. But half UK households PAY for TV.
This poverty label seems a bit odd to me. They chose to pay for things they don't really NEED and then visit food banks.
OK I don't actually have figures other than media headlines.

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The ONS figures for the average wage in 2018 quotes a figure of £28400. "Absolute Poverty" is quoted as anyone with an income of 60% or less of the average wage. This equates to £17,040 pa, £1420 pcm, £355 pw or an hourly rate of £8.88.

However the government also set the National Living Wage at £8.21 per hour so any household with dad on NLW as the only income will automatically be in absolute poverty.

The tax threshold is £12500 for a married man so again the family in absolute poverty still has to pay around £900 pa tax.

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We now learn half the kids in UK are in 'poverty. But half UK households PAY for TV.
This poverty label seems a bit odd to me. They chose to pay for things they don't really NEED and then visit food banks.
OK I don't actually have figures other than media headlines.

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i have little doubt that there are people who genuinely need food banks and I have little doubt that there will be some who don't really need them but still visit them and take free food just because its free.
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The figures above put all people on state pensions in poverty then?

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The figures above put all people on state pensions in poverty then?

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The figures above put all people on state pensions in poverty then?

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Many have to decide to either eat or stay warm after paying their hosing costs, so yes.

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I often come across people claiming poverty covered in Tattoos and piercings !


They are happy to pay for these

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The figures above put all people on state pensions in poverty then?

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Correct current rate of £168.60 pw equals £8767.20 pa only half the income to be considered as living in poverty, so even if a married couple both receive the maximum they still only have an income of £17534.40 pa so still in "absolute poverty".

Makes you think eh..........................
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And not everyone gets the full pension. Myself and a few other ex-pats don't and we can't claim Pension Credits.
But my main point was it's all relative and with the news that more 'poor' people are paying for streaming services when the free alternative is available.

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It is all about "entitlement". Chris and I often comment on how a whole generation has grown up thinking they are entitled to own a house without giving up on things like pay tv, holidays, nice cars, takeaways, acrylic nails, tatoos, designer clothes, date nights every week and new gadgets.
When they are interviewed on tv they don't even bother to hide all this stuff which proves that they don't realise that some of us see it as "non essential".
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