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post #21 of 33 (permalink) Old 01-05-2019, 12:32
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Because it generates employment for fitters and the consumer pays....

Win - win for the Government.

Most people NEVER look at their meter and only have a wobbly when the bill arrives, there is a sharp intake of breath and "we must cut down" type statements which may well last 24 hours or until the children come home and insist on leaving every light possible switched on.....

We've been there...,
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Yes, Terry, that is my point.
Once we know how much it costs to boil a kettle we do not need the smart meter any more. So, why was the "borrow one from your library" scheme not adopted more widely rather than the huge expense of the current (sorry!) "fitted in your house" scheme?
Quite simple really, no one is going to make money with a borrowing scheme.

But in reality it isn't a proper 'smart meter' in terms of communication and that's what they're after, your data.

It's the comms that makes them smart as one way communicators now, but (coming to a town near you) two way comms could potentially allow remote disconnection for non payment, now they would really love that, so watch this space.

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hi terry

just a thought but not something i would do as not at home much anyway

i have a gigantic magneto magnet energizer to re charge magnets


in the past when i energized magneto magnets i found that any compass nearby got its polarity reversed


that might be fun with a old meter

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In terms of metering technology it moves at a fast pace, before my retirement we ran test bed with a central home hub that gathered the data from a homes electric, gas and water meter, the hub then once a day fired up and sent the data to a laptop, it will happen one day.

Water companies are now using daily flow smart metering technology to help detect sudden flow increases to help with possible leak detection.
Electricity suppliers can use sudden drops in your usage to investigated illegal abstraction of electricity that's why your data is so useful.

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hi terry

just a thought but not something i would do as not at home much anyway

i have a gigantic magneto magnet energizer to re charge magnets


in the past when i energized magneto magnets i found that any compass nearby got its polarity reversed


that might be fun with a old meter

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The only advice I would give is stand well back when you energise it

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yes agree

it used to draw around 300A at 36v so doing it is not something i enjoyed i needed to make sure there was nothing steel nearby and watch out for flying spanners


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yes agree

it used to draw around 300A at 36v so doing it is not something i enjoyed i needed to make sure there was nothing steel nearby and watch out for flying spanners


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The proper response is don’t do it.

One of my RPU teams attended a commercial metering incident when an individual tried fitting a abstraction device to a 3 phase supply causing a fire and the eventual loss of his hand.

Don’t mess with electric it kills !

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I was helping an old retired farmer friend out the other week with his bills and stuff. He hasn't a clue but he moved into a bungalow last May and in November moved to a smart meter. He reckoned he was paying too much but didn't even know who to cantact let alone get online to view a breakdown of the Bills.

Turned out they had based his bills on previous bills before the smart meter was put in but his old meter never worked and after some digging it seemed they had just totally guessed his consumption from May to November. I managed to get it reassessed on his current consumption and he got £250 back. Moral of the story I guess is just don't assume what your being billed is correct and in this case it would never have corrected itself.


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But surely the point of a smart reader is that it actually reads what you actually use??

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Exactly Jean, I suspect the error was his billing 'until date of removal' of the old meter, the only way the billing on his smart meter could have been incorrect was if the opening reading on that meter had been captured incorrectly as such meter exchanges requires manual capture of its opening reading, after that billing gets further actual readings via the comms link.

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