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post #21 of 25 (permalink) Old 23-01-2019, 13:34
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Who says it was kids who dished up this atrocity.
The vandalism of the RAF memorial was one of four such incidents last night.
I think something more serious is going on. I also think, taking into consideration the siting of these memorials and the proliferation of CCTV coverage that the authorities know who the perpetrators are but for some reason are not making it public.

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Again, no sympathy with vandalism etc BUT Dresden was simple retaliation: it wasn't designed to help end the war - the Nazis were in retreat and civilian losses were huge.

"Unfortunately, records show that the first intentional “area bombing” of civilians in the Second World War took place at Monchengladbach on 11 May 1940 at Churchill’s orders (the day after he dramatically became prime minister), and four months before the Luftwaffe began its Blitz of British cities."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/...ts-people.html

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He killed my folk we killed theirs, but bomber Harrison took it too far, in the firestorm there was no escape as the up draught sucked folk off their feet and into the firestorm no escape, death by someone hundreds of feet in the air completely removed from what is happening on the ground, same with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, terrible thing war.. But who are we to criticize those times just learn from them. ray.

Tell that to 5 million Jews or 20 million Russians.

Turning the other cheek just dont work and the only thing aggressors understand is more aggression. As Kenny Everett said "Bomb the Bastards".


How can anyone say this or that was just too much in the heat of WW2.? Especially towards the end when we learn of so many atrocities.



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Tell that to 5 million Jews or 20 million Russians.

Turning the other cheek just dont work and the only thing aggressors understand is more aggression. As Kenny Everett said "Bomb the Bastards".


How can anyone say this or that was just too much in the heat of WW2.? Especially towards the end when we learn of so many atrocities.



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Of course you are right, sadly. But in the greater scheme of things and history how will the we be judged, I am glad it was our previous generation, my uncle Bob a career soldier from school at 14 until he retired as a Regimental Sergeant Major stationed in the Raj for most of his time in the army, the most soft spoken gentle man you could meet, but!, how many people did he kill while at the Indian uprising and second world war .

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Sir Arthur Harris didn't make the decision to bomb Dresden the Joint Intelligence Committee suggested targets and Dresden, Chemnitz and Leipzig were added to Bomber Command's target list. Secretary for Air Sir Archibald Sinclair signed off on the inclusion.

Vandalising memorials is a disgrace.
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