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I am REALLY starting to think that just maybe we ARE going to simply walk away with a nodeal at the end of March!

Mainly because our EU masters are determined to make things as difficult for/punish the U.K. for leaving AND even more importantly, to deter the other countries who are unhappy with the way things are heading from doing likewise.

Plus of course they are going to have a big problem filling the huge gap in the EU’s finances that will happen once the U.K. stops its enormous contribution.

It’s little use speculating because, sadly, we “little people” are basically being ignored by the very people we elected to carry out our wishes.

It will be what it is on 30th March, I have no real idea what will happen either way, and MORE importantly neither does anyone else. Many have theories, but that’s all they are because this situation has NEVER happened before to anyone.

I do feel a bit sorry for St Theresa, no matter WHAT she does many will consider it all wrong anyway.

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Do the government not monitor social media anymore? They are a laughing stock. Their phoney no deal preparations are just getting ripped to bits everywhere. Surely even Brexiteers cant be happy with us pishing millions of pounds against the wall for all this nonsense of pretend traffic jams and fake ferries.

To quote Ploddy's article. "The entire southbound carriageway of a 13-mile stretch of the M20 in Kent will be sectioned off during the operation. It would be used to hold 2,000 lorries in the event of severe cross-Channel congestion. Two affected Tory-run councils have previously warned that the ‘temporary solution’ would in fact last many years."

As I mentioned there are 12000 lorries a day going through Dover so 2000 is just four hours worth (They dont run all night I dont think either). Just a two minute delay at dover for these lorries will lead to a 17 mile jam and the paper work for just one lorry could be two inches thick according to port officials.

No amount of finger crossing, employing fake ferry companies or buying up disused air fields or hoping for some new magic technology will get around the fact that we are in the Customs Union and Single Market for a very good reason when it comes to the movement of goods and people. Without it Dover and the Tunnel is pretty much Fubared. Still, if its the will of the people huh.
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They've been setting the lorries off from Manston 25 at a time. They have just over 90 of them.

We'll hear about how it goes later. Greyling will say it all went very well no doubt.

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According to the BBC only 87 turned up...

In other words just over half what they wanted is what they got.....

I wonder if that is indicative of other wishes they have held. ?

I flew frequently from as it was then RAF Manston in Chipmunks for Air Experience flying with the ATC in the late 1960's. We also did .22 shooting at the range there. It was certainly a paved runway and the Chipmunk needed about 500 m of the length.... It took off at 45 knots and landed at 55 knots. Very much a lovable aircraft to fly IMO.

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Apparently one of the wagons was a Thanet bin wagon. They should have stuck Chris Grayling in that and Brexit and dumped it in the channel.
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According to the BBC only 87 turned up...

In other words just over half what they wanted is what they got.....

I wonder if that is indicative of other wishes they have held. ?

I flew frequently from as it was then RAF Manston in Chipmunks for Air Experience flying with the ATC in the late 1960's. We also did .22 shooting at the range there. It was certainly a paved runway and the Chipmunk needed about 500 m of the length.... It took off at 45 knots and landed at 55 knots. Very much a lovable aircraft to fly IMO.

Dave, we had Cessna 152s and 3 Chipmunks at flying school at Perth. The Chipmunks did not have heaters FFS, in Scotland at 5,000' in January, and the students came down shivering. - 'Loveable'? kiss my .....


A bit like the nostalgia of flying to Majorca in the '50s in a Dakota compared with a Boeing 737-800 or an Airbus 321 now.


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Quite possibly and agree no heater but at Manston you were wearing so much clobber you were well known insulated and, of course, youngsters don't notice the cold as it was only for 30 minutes or so and doing aerobatics in the Chipmunk took your attention well away from body temperature....

Starting was always interesting with the cartridge driven Coffman (?) starter...... certainly made you jump - from memory they carried a dozen cartridges so that was the limit - although the engine was kept running all day as AEF did not stop.....

But of course those were the "good old days" talked about on another thread with the smogs, power cuts, rubbish piles and so on either behind or before us....

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