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SOGs love em or hate em

We never had one so couldn't form an opinion either way, but this new van has one, I had it disconnected for the first day and a half, and it was a normal toilet without chemicals, then I connected it up, and it was actually very effective, not sure if I'd actually buy one but I was definitely impressed, right up until a few minutes ago, when I emptied the cassette and decided to give it a service.

The link goes to some pictures of the most disgusting thing I have ever seen come out of a MoHo, so don't click it unless you have a very strong stomach.

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My next problem is what on earth do I use to get it at least a bit cleaner, I got sharp stick and tried to scratch it but it's like concrete in there.
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Ych a fi!!!

I would try filling it to the brim with mild acid, say lemon juice, which will probably react with the lime scale to break it down.

Alkali cleaners will not attack the crud.

A new lip seal is not expensive.
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I've just watched a couple of videos on SOG toilets. What are the advantages of them? Is it just to save a few bob on chemicals?
Do they just pump foul air out into the open?
I don't get it.
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I would try filling it to the brim with mild acid, say lemon juice, which will probably react with the lime scale to break it down.

Alkali cleaners will not attack the crud.

A new lip seal is not expensive.
I'd need a bank loan to fill it with Lemon juice but it would probably work, mean time I have put a load of Bio liquid in and almost filled it with water so I can agitate it after leaving it upside down to get it around the mechanism which seems to be the worst part after using a small mirror to look, over several nights.

I already bought a lip seal, first thing I do with any van just in case it leaks when away.
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I've just watched a couple of videos on SOG toilets. What are the advantages of them? Is it just to save a few bob on chemicals?
Do they just pump foul air out into the open?
I don't get it.
As a seasoned user I can now understand them, it has nothing to do with Chemicals or anything else I read of them, for us, you can open the slide and the fan kicks in, so no nasty niffs in the loo, anything else is a bonus, close the slide & the fan stops, I would think unless you're stood next to the SOG, you might not even notice anything more than the fan whirring.
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I have put a load of Bio liquid in and almost filled it with water so I can agitate it after leaving it upside down to get it around the mechanism which seems to be the worst part after using a small mirror to look, over several nights.
The only thing that will clear the scale is an acid Kev, I do ours annually and it comes out looking like you could drink beer out of it (thankfully I'm not a beer drinker).
I always buy a litre of hydrachloric acid (23%) when in France, they sell it in most supermarkets for less than €2 and it's the bees knees for the job. I dilute half a bottle into about ten litres of warm water, swill it around, turn over regularly and leave it in there for at least 24hrs. It's never damaged any seals or working bits yet and I've been using the method more than ten years.

PS: I don't have a SOG but my own fan ventilation conversion of the Thetford cassette works like magic for keeping odours out of the washroom.

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The system ventilates the foul air to the outside, through the filter; it also aids decompsition as it ventilates to the outside when travelling; change the filter regularly and there's no smells outside, as well as inside. It's the first thing I fitted when I bought this van, having had one in the Pilote. The smell of the chemicals to me is bloody awful, and I don't mind the smell of what comes out of the thing when I empty it - after all it's a natural product! Lots of people use bio washing tabs (or the liquid) to mask the smell, and of course it cleans the box out! I use the thetford cleaning stuff every so oftem to give it a good clean out.

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our old boss at outdoorbits has the UK concession for SOG, and can supply the charcoal filters - I get 2 at a time to save on postage.
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All a sog "system" does is activate a little extractor fan when you open the "slice" in your toilet bowl - thus drawing air down through the bowl and out of the cassette and thus out of the van via it's little flexible pipe.

In this respect, to my mind, it works really really well. We don't use any toilet cassette chemicals.

But to avoid/remove calc buildup we do put a little white vinegar into the closed-slice bowl from time to time, just enough to cover the slice and rubber seal. It's brilliant at gently removing limescale.
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Short of burgling a Lemon juice factory, any other ideas ?
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Nope, still don't get it.
Can't be as good (hygienic?) as chemicals neutralising the nasty whiffs surely?
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