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Winter campervanning

Planning a campervan tour Southern Europe/Spain/Morroco nov-feb 2020. Interested in any experiences good or bad with travelling in winter.

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Once you get to Southern Europe life is fairly easy. The weather in Southern Spain and Portugal is, generally, very good and so you can spend long periods out in the sun. Do remember that the nights can often be quite chilly. There is a large community of motorhomers who spend the winters in warmer climes and they are all very helpful to newcomers though they will, generally, have already bagged the best pitches!
Many Spanish and Portuguese campsites are set up for summer visitors and so have lots of shady trees around pitches so do bear that in mind.

The journey to get there can be challenging as France can get similar weather to the UK. Northern Spain can be quite wet too with snow in the mountains. They are well equipped to deal with it but you need to be aware.

Ask away with any specific questions as there is lots of experience on here. How long is your tour, for instance, likely to be?

We are currently in the Murcia/Alicante region which has had beautiful weather but is being battered by storm Gloria at the time of writing
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Yes, from November to February it will be shorter hours of daylight and much cooler at night (pleasantly so, for my body thermostat). So, management of your power supplies (gas and electric) will certainly be something to consider. How regularly you intend to move about will influence your decisions. Lots of blogs available from people who have already done similar trips - Ill dig out some links when I have a moment (Im supposed to be emptying our Moho at the moment . . . )


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I was in Albufeira (Portugal) 10 days ago (hotel not campsite).

Lovely warm sunny days, T shirt and shorts during the day, but bloody cold (4-5 C) at night though.

Big campsite (Camping Albufeira) open and pretty busy! Loads of snowbirding Brits.

Might be worth looking at investing in a refillable gas system (Gaslow or Gasit system)

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On the subject of gas - there are two types. Propane and Butane. In the uk Propane is more common. If you are camping in very low temperatures then Propane can solidify somewhat and refuse to ignite. If that is the case then you will need Butane. If you have on on board, refillable, tank then the gas at the pump in the petrol station has more Butane in it. Otherwise you will have to buy a new bottle of butane and swap it over.
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On the subject of gas - there are two types. Propane and Butane. In the uk Propane is more common. If you are camping in very low temperatures then Propane can solidify somewhat and refuse to ignite. If that is the case then you will need Butane. If you have on on board, refillable, tank then the gas at the pump in the petrol station has more Butane in it. Otherwise you will have to buy a new bottle of butane and swap it over.
Its actually the other way round! See here.....

https://www.calor.co.uk/news-and-vie...or-caravanning

Butane (blue cylinder) doesnt vaporize at low temperature so you need Propane (orange cylinder) which does.

If you have a refillable system the autogas supplies are (usually) a mixture of both.

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Thanks Andy. I knew I should not rely on my memory! Chris and I have been discussing getting another bottle as our on board tank is running low. I remembered wrongly which one he said we needed. I have been looking on ex pat forums over here because people sell the empty cylinders sometimes.
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You can pick them up at boot sales Pat for 2 to 5. But some supermarkets do promotions and only charge an extra Euro for the Bottle.

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Thanks Andy. I knew I should not rely on my memory! Chris and I have been discussing getting another bottle as our on board tank is running low. I remembered wrongly which one he said we needed. I have been looking on ex pat forums over here because people sell the empty cylinders sometimes.
If you're thinking of using bottles instead of your on board tank you will need some way of getting the gas into your system.

If you have an outside barbecue point most people will connect to that.

If you can get to your regulator then possible to attach there, BUT be sure to get a simple bottle connector and high pressure pigtail and not a bottle top regulator.

Most Portuguese bottles (at least the ones I have) utilise the push on bayonet type of either connector or regulator, ensure you get it right.

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Thanks Ray and John.

Chris used to work with gas (Central Heating Engineer) so he is all over the fitting of various bottles with various connectors. Last year we had to source a special fitting to let us fill up the on board tank at the garage pump. Always some challenge to over come
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