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post #241 of 250 (permalink) Old 28-10-2018, 07:55
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I agree a little with Ray. Any house guest should respect the space that they move into. What is a bit worrying is that they made no move to clean up before you came home. Even students would think to do that.

If it were me I would sit them both down over a drink or two and explain the house rules. You might have to lower your standards a little and it sounds like they will have to raise theirs. At least the kitchen and bathroom areas should be left as found. As they are not using the kitchen much that would just mean the bathroom. Could you have a sitting room each for a while? Theirs to be returned to you in the same condition they found it. Who knows they might thank you for it in the future?

Or, how about they borrow the motorhome and go live near their new house?
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I guess after having 150 tenants over 30+ years it reveals the non owners character. We have family that allow other family members to use their holiday homes and leave them worse than paying guests.

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"Or, how about they borrow the motorhome and go live near their new house?"



Don't even think about it Sandra. That in my opinion would be a disaster waiting to happen.
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Feeling less than generous towards the pair of them

Apparently she hasnít showered for two days because she doesnít want to ask me to look after the baby whilst she does

So my son hasnít gone to the house in order to support her!!

But my daughters have been round and immediately taken the baby so she could have showered then

Of course she doesnít want to ask me, because Iím cooking meals, washing clothes including baby clothes , which she will wash later she says, and after Iíd finally washed them, she will put them to dry later but not now, I scrubbed the main bathroom today and I mean scrubbed Took me over two hours

And she asked me is it alright to bath the baby in the bath ?

I almost said well now itís clean it is ,

I know Iím intolerant, but tomorrow her kids come back here , and their bedrooms are chaos, the beds unmade

And I wash the baby bottles which accumulate next to the sink and stack them into the steriliser

And Iíve cooked the meal, hung the baby clothes , scrubbed the bathroom, cleaned the the shower and half of the onsuite

And sheís gone to visit her mum

Come on , when I had my third child I had an 18 month and a three year old , a house to manage
And Albert supported me by going to work and bringing home a wage

You bett Iím not going to dangle a baby on my arm whilst I cook , clean , and wash clothes

I havenít showered in two days either , I havenít had time, by the time Iíve finished my joints are too painful

Iíll mind the baby whist she cleans the baths and toilets, does the washing, cleans the fridge , and cooks the meals

And that just isnít going to happen

And if she doesnít recognise the support sheís got

Tough, Iím not adding baby care to that

And Jan I donít need sunglasses Iíd need a blind fold

Bins hadnít been put out, Alberts run to tip to remove rubbish

Archieís cute, but not that cute

And yes Ray MUG is the right word

Iím ashamed of my son he could have done more to get his house ready , generous to his partner

Her kids will arrive tomorrow

And as she apparently can ignore everything around her

Iíll be sorting out them as well

I want them gone, they can live in their own mess, in my opinion filth

There Iíve said it to you lot on here

Iím devastated that my newly decorated house that I cleaned so carefully before I left , proud ,is taking me so long to clean

And my other kids feel the same

Sandra
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Well it blew up last night
Between me and my son

It wasnít dirty he said

You are right I said it was filthy

And Iím exhausted

I canít manage alone , jane has done nothing since Iíve done back

And the kids return tomorrow

Jane apparently heard it all and was in tears

Give it time Albert told her in this house things are eventually said as it is

Today we shared the washing , folding

The kids returned and were a delight

At this rate I might even look after Archie

He cryís a lot, and sheís mixed feeding him at night bottles

Iíve suggested she breast feeds him every meal night and day and tops him up with a bottle following it

It seems to have worked today

The kids sandwiches for school are now sorted

I guess tomorrow Iím up early

Issy loves bacon and eggs for breakfast , the other two eyes lit up at a bacon breakfast

Iíll sort them whilst Jane sorts the baby before she takes them to school in Salford

Sheís spending two days with her mum along with the kids

And slowly things will get organised
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Keep up Sandra.

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Well, Sandra, its been said. There is no excuse that they don't know how you feel about having a clean house now. I know people who live in what my mum would call " a pig's sty". I don't think any the less of them, they are just different to me. I know people who keep a cleaner tidier house than I do, again I don't think any the less of them. What would annoy me is if they didn't respect my house the way I like it.
We are lucky that our newish son in law comes from a suburban house where they are neat niks. He takes his shoes off when he comes in and we told him he is in the country now where people just do not do that. When we go to his house, though, we take our shoes off when we go in. It is how things should be. It is called respect.
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Pat I raised 6 kids the youngest born when the eldest was 8; amongst them twins

I had to be organised, and prob Iím a tad too organised, but chaos disturbs me

As I get older I never know how my joints will fare from day to day ,once I could clean from top to bottom including all windows in a day

Now with the exception of bathrooms itís either upstairs or down , bed making is now beyond me

Albert does that

My hands are crap as well

And Archie cryís non stop

After he left this morning

I kept hearing him cry

But we will get there eventually

Tonight Iíve got Issy and my son

Tomorrow Jane is coming back to spend time with our son before he goes to work

Itís all making me feel inferior

Iím tired and guilty that Iím putting the house first

But the washing is dry and folded , and itís not mine , the van still isnít unpacked

Iíve just managed the bedding , Iíll iron it soon

I know, why iron it ?

But I do and store it in the shelves

Which are now filled with their things so I canít

Alberts foot is still sore

And my joints are crap and painful

But Archie is my grandchild

He cries constantly

I know sheís tired

But unfortunately so am I

And I just canít physically take on her three kids, plus Izzy and my son

I wish I could , and Im trying

Iíd love to say ignore everything, just look after Archie

But I canít manage anymore

And Iím guessing she is feeling the same

But I recone weíll manage together

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And kids bring such joy into our lives??
One day I might experience this joy and it won't be wind.

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tomorrow Ill have Issy

Tomorrowshe will have have bacon and egg for breakfast

our son on a late shift will stay in bed

He must be shattered with Archie

A none stop cryer

Iím not so good as I wake whenever he cries

Dam it when heís not here I hear him crying

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