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Fiat Ducato questions: Motors and gearboxes

Hello Newbie here,
I have various motorhomes and campervans in the past including Fiat Ducato's. Currently I am looking at two options, an automatic motorhome around 2005 vintage, or buying an automatic delivery van (2005 to 2014) and converting it to a campervan. My questions are mainly around motors and gearboxes.

1. With a standard motorhome (automatic gearbox) about 6 metres in length, what is considered the best motor for power and economy, the 2.3 L or the 2.8 or 3.0 L?

2. With the long and high delivery vans L4/H3 (automatic gearbox) - the best size motor for a standard campervan fit out?

3. For the motorhome or campervan, how complicated is it to convert from a manual to automatic gearbox? Approximate cost? In other words, remove the manual gearbox and replace it with an automatic gearbox? (I am not interested in any auto clutch arrangement.)

I am looking at buying a left hand drive in Germany and importing it to Portugal. Another option, I have heard of a place that allows vehicles purchased in Germany to remain registered and insured in that country - but do not know who they are?

Thanks for your attention!
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Hello Newbie here,
I have various motorhomes and campervans in the past including Fiat Ducato's. Currently I am looking at two options, an automatic motorhome around 2005 vintage, or buying an automatic delivery van (2005 to 2014) and converting it to a campervan. My questions are mainly around motors and gearboxes.

1. With a standard motorhome (automatic gearbox) about 6 metres in length, what is considered the best motor for power and economy, the 2.3 L or the 2.8 or 3.0 L?

2. With the long and high delivery vans L4/H3 (automatic gearbox) - the best size motor for a standard campervan fit out?

3. For the motorhome or campervan, how complicated is it to convert from a manual to automatic gearbox? Approximate cost? In other words, remove the manual gearbox and replace it with an automatic gearbox? (I am not interested in any auto clutch arrangement.)

I am looking at buying a left hand drive in Germany and importing it to Portugal. Another option, I have heard of a place that allows vehicles purchased in Germany to remain registered and insured in that country - but do not know who they are?

Thanks for your attention!
1 2007 0n the 2,3 130 is the same hp as the earlier 2.8 jtd

2 no true auto gearbox

3 not possible all gearbox gear changes are ecu controlled ie they are computer operated manual gearboxes ie robotic gear changes


fiat are just about to bring out a 9 speed torque converter box
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The X244 and X250 was available with a ZF4-HP20 torque converter 4 speed "true auto" box.

There are not many around and apparently are not too good.

Agree with pagey ref unsuitability of change from manual to auto, far too many complications.

Reference your registration query, if you are resident in Portugal, there is a legal requirement to have your vehicle registered in the country you are a fiscal resident of.

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The X244 and X250 was available with a ZF4-HP20 torque converter 4 speed "true auto" box.

There are not many around and apparently are not too good.

Agree with pagey ref unsuitability of change from manual to auto, far too many complications.

Reference your registration query, if you are resident in Portugal, there is a legal requirement to have your vehicle registered in the country you are a fiscal resident of.

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hi i was aware of the true auto a member of our local c&mc group has one in a lhd tag hobby 750 coupled to the 146 hp engine but i have never seen one in an english market van and as you say they are very rare
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