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The headlight reflectors on my MH have started to tarnish brown/rust , have ordered new ones but won't have them in time for MOT . Question is will this be considered in the MOT as this condition does not effect the function ie they are still really bright . Only thing I can find on Google is maybe failing MOT because lights are too bright .
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Most MOT places offer a free retest if it fails (might be worth checking that before you book it in) so if the worst comes to the worst get the new ones fitted after the fail and then pop it back in for retest. On the second test, they only check the things it fails on if my memory serves me (its been a while since I had a failure)...

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Most MOT places offer a free retest if it fails (might be worth checking that before you book it in) so if the worst comes to the worst get the new ones fitted after the fail and then pop it back in for retest. On the second test, they only check the things it fails on if my memory serves me (its been a while since I had a failure)...

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Different set up here in NI, we only have specific test centres run by the DVA, we do have to pay for a retest but as with you only failed issues get retested provided it's within a defined timeframe, local garages don't do MOT tests.

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Same here with centres ONLY doing Controle Technique inspections and no repairs - tat way the likelihood of a failure being followed by work being done by the same garage has been removed and it seems so much more sensible - but the UK recently rejected the idea of an MoT being valid for 2 years (as ours are) as "it would cost jobs".

To me that smacks of the Government is aware of the dubious practices and do not want to curtail them - there have been numerous reports of garages failing on dubious or downright wrong points and then doing unnecessary work before eventually awarding the "pass" certificate and lightening the wallet of the owner often y very large sums...... Such things could be stopped at a stroke -- but that option was rejected......

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Same here with centres ONLY doing Controle Technique inspections and no repairs - tat way the likelihood of a failure being followed by work being done by the same garage has been removed and it seems so much more sensible - but the UK recently rejected the idea of an MoT being valid for 2 years (as ours are) as "it would cost jobs".

To me that smacks of the Government is aware of the dubious practices and do not want to curtail them - there have been numerous reports of garages failing on dubious or downright wrong points and then doing unnecessary work before eventually awarding the "pass" certificate and lightening the wallet of the owner often y very large sums...... Such things could be stopped at a stroke -- but that option was rejected......
Importantly it also stops the practice of car sales sites issuing certificates for vehicles they sell that may have real issues.

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Even in England I go to a MOT Test Station that only does tests and no repair work. They do Class 7 as well as Class 4 and do coaches, so are quite familiar with commercial running gear etc.

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I use one in Maidstone that only do MOTs. As to the OPs post, the MOT has now got a lot stricter so doubt it will pass with tarnished reflectors, all depends on the tester.
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The headlight reflectors on my MH have started to tarnish brown/rust , have ordered new ones but won't have them in time for MOT . Question is will this be considered in the MOT as this condition does not effect the function ie they are still really bright . Only thing I can find on Google is maybe failing MOT because lights are too bright .
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The current testers reference doesn't specifically mention the reflector component, the nearest is "Method of Inspection 5", parts a. and b. which state; "is in good working order" and "shows light of the correct colour", failure reason for part a. is "inoperative, excessively damaged or deteriorated, or has a product on the lens or light source so that the light output is well below that required to illuminate the road ahead". so i believe they are fine if the rust doesn't effect the output and they can't be failed due to one looking rusty, a mate of mine owns a test station so i could check with him if you like?

the above is from the testers reference, page 2 of section 1.7, which can be found here <mot test reference>

From the 20th of May the rules change and the new reference can be found here
< new reference >
section 4.1 does mention the reflector and states that "slightly defective" is a minor, whereas "seriously defective or missing" is a major (i.e. fail).

Hope this helps

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The source for the reference guides is at the link below

< here >


An overview of the new rule changes can be found here < overview >

Regarding diesels with a dpf, my mate reckons that the bit that states:

"Your vehicle will get a major fault if the MOT tester:" (that's a fail)
"can see smoke of any colour coming from the exhaust"
"finds evidence that the DPF has been tampered with"

will instantly take a large number of diesels off the road!

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Excellent info, thank you.
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