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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 19-07-2020, 19:23 Thread Starter
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Fiat ducato 2.3 dual mass flywheel

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Driving off Friday afternoon into the borders, just a few mile south of the border we found that our MH knocked us about when shifting gears and made an awful noise. Rang my pal and he said immediately that it was a duff DMF. He suggested to just keep going as we'd have probably another 20k miles. We did get there and back. Van is pulling nicely apart from hellish bangs when putting down my foot on accelerator.
My question is, should i replace tge DMF or go for a solid flywheel? Mileage is 53k and the guy i bought it off had a new clutch last November. Not sure if the DMF was replaced. Anyone had a similar decision to make?
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The drive train is designed to work with a dmf and the adice I've seen is to keep it that way. Apparently a traditional arrangement will not transfer loads as progressively and may do damage.

So I was advised when asking the same question some years ago. It seemed logical to me.
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Thanks erneboy,
I'm just concerned that, since the life span of these DMF's is apparently no more than 3-4yrs, I'm standing somewhere in Europe with the same problem.
Foing to email the technical editor of MMM tomorrow and will ask for advice. II'll also listen to the mechanic tomorrow when i put my Ford Galaxy in tomorrow.
Right now not worried about cost, just trying to find the best solution. Thanks again
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If you drive as though the clutch and flywheel are made of cheese you should get many years of service from the Fiat one.
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If you drive as though the clutch and flywheel are made of cheese you should get many years of service from the Fiat one.
Too late now as the sh1t has hit the fan, hm, more like the van. Garage asked me to bring it round and 60 yards from the garage i heard a massive clonk, let it roll into a side street. Can put in all the gears but no result, won't move at all. Guy comes over from the garage, looks at it and says that the drive shaft snapped. Luckily i have the invoice of the garage who changed the clutch and my garage says that there should still be a warranty as clutch has been fitted in March. I now let them talk to each other and see what comes of it.
We love that van and its gotta be fixed one way or other.
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Might turn out to be a good result in the end. I hope so.
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Fingers crossed you get a good outcome Ingo.
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Thanks guys, even if I'd have to pay for it myself, I'm hell bent on getting it back !!😁😁
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Oh dear, not a great situation to be in, obviously any advice given would be opinion rather than fact, the fact that your drive shaft has snapped will undoubtedly be blamed on someone else's as no person would wish to admit responsibility.

The key point is to get it sorted asap so that you can use it, yes, undoubtedly there will be that expensive sharp intake of breath through teeth, that we all know only too well.....

But as my late f-I-l said "shrouds don't have pockets" so getting you back on the road should be the main focus. Hopefully as they Cisma t,e they will measure and photograph at every step just in case there is a demonstrable fault.

Good luck.
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I doubt either of the drive shafts have snapped, most likely a CV joint failed, or maybe when the garage replaced the clutch they failed to fit the retention ring on the splines properly which allowed the shaft to drift out of engagement and shear the spline.
If it is a shaft that needs replacing it will be a lot less expensive than a DMF replacement though.

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