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post #11 of 41 (permalink) Old 31-07-2020, 06:52
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No! Our fifth wheel has lpg tanks to run the heating and cooking etc. Such a nuisance to keep getting bottles which then have to stand outside
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Most of the places we fill up are using big Calor tanks so they should be open as usual.

I wish I could find a map of where they are like Autogas did.
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Surprising move when they admit it is cleaner and less polluting - why are they not promoting its value ? But AFAIK, LPG cars run on petrol too, I don't think there are any LPG only vehicles..... don't ignore the word think....

So why is it not "twinned" with electric power ? Surely that would be win win, but perhaps the petrol is still needed for starting ?

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Only had one dual fuel vehicle, a Vauxhall Combo van, it had to be started on petrol first.
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Surprising move when they admit it is cleaner and less polluting - why are they not promoting its value ? But AFAIK, LPG cars run on petrol too, I don't think there are any LPG only vehicles..... don't ignore the word think....

So why is it not "twinned" with electric power ? Surely that would be win win, but perhaps the petrol is still needed for starting ?

I am sure someone knows the answers..... says he hopefully.....

Manufacturers are starting to build LPG/Electric vehicles. From memory, Renault may be one of them.
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The problem is there are now very few cars running on LPG these days, and the MH refillable cylinder market is minuscule, so itís simply not economically viable for the forecourt operators to continue dispensing LPG.

I suspect the same will start happening on the Continent shortly for exactly the same reasons.

Itís called ďprogressĒ I believe?

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The problem is there are now very few cars running on LPG these days, and the MH refillable cylinder market is minuscule, so itís simply not economically viable for the forecourt operators to continue dispensing LPG.

I suspect the same will start happening on the Continent shortly for exactly the same reasons.

Itís called ďprogressĒ I believe?

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You might be right in respect to traditional petrol stations, but there still will be depots for filling propane/butane cylinders for cooking in country areas where piped gas is not available. This is especially true in many Continental countries. There overheads will be less so the economy more in their facour.



This will be where the LPG Apps will be more important in future.


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The problem is there are now very few cars running on LPG these days, and the MH refillable cylinder market is minuscule, so itís simply not economically viable for the forecourt operators to continue dispensing LPG.

I suspect the same will start happening on the Continent shortly for exactly the same reasons.

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Surely there should be massive encouragement for MORE LPG powered vehicles since they are cleaner ?

I have seen absolutely no sign of that which must be worrying.
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You might be right in respect to traditional petrol stations, but there still will be depots for filling propane/butane cylinders for cooking in country areas where piped gas is not available. This is especially true in many Continental countries. There overheads will be less so the economy more in their facour.



This will be where the LPG Apps will be more important in future.


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To the best of my knowledge the Continentals donít use consumer refillable cylinders, but the use exchange ones (like Calor) is very common and widespread. So there are not, apart from fuel stations, any locations where itís possible to refill your own. In fact I donít think you can even get your own Gaslow or similar filled at any Calor depots in the UK can you??,

Due to the lack of piped gas across Europe the use of the smaller (15kg) domestic sized exchange cylinders is widespread and the cost is much lower than in the U.K. I cannot see that system altering very much because, as far as the consumer is concerned, the current system works very well.

The reduction over the last 10-15 years in the number of locations itís possible to refill your own cylinder is the writing on the wall for the likes of Gaslow, Gasit, Safefill, and similar. Which is going to impact Motorhomers hard.

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