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post #51 of 56 (permalink) Old 01-03-2019, 09:26
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I had a two large Gaslow cylinder system and would rarely use EHU when touring France. I would get through one of the large cylinders in around 3-4 weeks. Donít underestimate how much gas a fridge uses when itís warm!!

I reckon your two 6kg cylinders would not be anywhere near enough for 90 days

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Loadsa room. I would expect you can get two 13kg. bottles in there.


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Neither do I, which is why I was asking what options for changeover tanks there are in France.

I'll also have 200 watts of solar and the regulator can feed excess solar power (once the batteries are charged) to power the fridge. Nice little perk during the warmest part of the day.

Not having actually laid eyes on the Hymer and not knowing the size of tanks I wasn't completely sure what would fit. It's all done by reading so far. Very frustrating as I'm a completely DIY kinda person.
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I'll also have 200 watts of solar and the regulator can feed excess solar power (once the batteries are charged) to power the fridge. Nice little perk during the warmest part of the day.

Not having actually laid eyes on the Hymer and not knowing the size of tanks I wasn't completely sure what would fit. It's all done by reading so far. Very frustrating as I'm a completely DIY kinda person.
No, the power required to operate a fridge on 12v can normally ONLY come from the engine while it is running, the fridge may consume between 8 and 15 amps and solar panels are unlikely to be able to supply that, neither will the MH wiring allow it to power the fridge.

Most of us ONLY use the gas as I described, we did 5 weeks off grid with 2 x 6 kg Calor cylinders and were about 1/2 wat through the second one when we came back. Hence my comment about it being questionable that it would be enough.

Refillable is easy, but the initial outlay is high unless it is going to be used for years - I reckon it took around 3 1/2 years to cover the installation costs with the reduced LPG price. To me, the biggest benefit was for my back - not having to lift cylinders out and filled ones back in to a difficult space.

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I might be tempted to go for the cheap option of one 6kg refillable
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No, the power required to operate a fridge on 12v can normally ONLY come from the engine while it is running, the fridge may consume between 8 and 15 amps and solar panels are unlikely to be able to supply that, neither will the MH wiring allow it to power the fridge.
I was almost right. The regulator I have has a Ďtriggerí to enable it. IF there is enough solar, then it tells the fridge to use the 12 volt (but youíre correct, doesnít directly power itdirectly). How much solar and sun you need to achieve that is another issue. I wonít be counting on it. In the heat of the day, in summer, if the batteries are fully charged and youíre not consuming anything, then the solar isnít being used. Thatís when it might kick in. Itíll be interesting to see if it happens.

http://www.aandncaravanservices.co.uk/solar-power.php

ĎThe Votronic 250 also has an AES Fridge 'trigger' that can switch a Fridge from Gas to 12v when the Solar supply is high enough. Note that to power a conventional AES Fridge on 12v, the Solar Panel has got to be capable of supplying at least 13.5v and about 14 - 17 amps. That is the minimum power that a typical 12v Fridge element requires to operate. Any less and it will just take the excess from the Habitation area battery, running it flat.Ď

Just googled and 200 watts of panels will (best case) output 16 amps, so itís borderline.
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