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Have a waz where ever they are leaving there deposits.
It worked for me as they dont like the sent of another intruder.
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Have a waz where ever they are leaving there deposits.
It worked for me as they dont like the sent of another intruder.

I'd have to watch out the neighbours aren't about if I try that!!

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I was interested to see that someone has started one of those them there online petitions to get the same "rights" for cats as for dogs.

That is that you should have to report running over a cat to the Police by law.

However dog owners have to accept with all sorts of restrictions and obligations on their pet, one being not to let their dog stray and in many areas to have to clean up after it or face a pretty stiff fine.

No where can I find any mention of those concerned cat owners offering to accept the same restrictions and obligations.

I wonder why not?
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I was interested to see that someone has started one of those them there online petitions to get the same "rights" for cats as for dogs.

That is that you should have to report running over a cat to the Police by law.

However dog owners have to accept with all sorts of restrictions and obligations on their pet, one being not to let their dog stray and in many areas to have to clean up after it or face a pretty stiff fine.

No where can I find any mention of those concerned cat owners offering to accept the same restrictions and obligations.

I wonder why not?
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Cats do not come under the same laws because they don't hurt, maim or kill humans. They can't be domesticated like dogs and ordered by command to cause danger or suffering to humans. Hence dogs have to now be leashed in most public places and are not allowed to roam on there own or defecate in public.
Cats are wanderers by there very feline nature so you can't control this so no laws are going to help.

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Ways to deter cats from gardens.

Cats are a problem in any built-up area or housing estate where lots of humans live in a small area. and as the world population keeps increasing at an alarming rate then the humans with pets also goes up drastically in numbers.
The cat is one of the few animals we give total freedom of law to.

They are non-aggressive, generally private creatures which pose no danger, unless you are a small bird.

Unfortunately cats need to defecate and like lots of animals this is also how they communicate with each other, to mark territory or dominance.
this is why some cats bury their poo while others leave it in the open.
The open poo is a mark of territory to other felines and if it covers it up, then you will find it is on someone else's territory.


You will have to be ingenious to win the battle.


1. Use a garden hose with a jet sprayer attached.
Do not let the cat see you or you have just created another problem for yourself. The cat will then associate you with the water and nasty experience and simply look for you before it goes about its business.
You have to be as cunning as the cat and not get seen.
You are trying to get the cat to associate the garden or area with a bad water experience every time it enters that area.
Also let your neighbour know you are going to try this so they don't think you are being cruel to there beloved animal.


2. Water Pistol or kids water pump action water gun.
this also has to be used without the cat seeing it is you doing it or you are again wasting your time as the cat then knows it only has to avoid you to stop the horrible soaking it gets from you.
You have to let the cat know the horrible water experience only happens when it goes to the area, this will be your garden.

Do Not be cruel with the water or you will be liable for prosecution.
You cannot use such a force of water you knock the cat over or cause it to leave the ground.


3. Ultrasonic cat and fox scarers.
There are so many of these devices and all offer different things.
Cats do learn from what they experience and an ultrasonic device that only goes off if the cat goes near it is no use as the cat will just climb a different part of the fence etc. to get in, thus avoiding setting off the high pitched sound they omit.
You would be better going for one that has infrared as this will pick-up heat as opposed to movement. This will work better because the cat will normally always be caught even if they try to go round it.
You don't want to spend lots on these devices. 1 or 2 at most for your gardens.
If these still don't work then try other methods.


4. Repellent Pellet.
The pellets are soaked in real essence of lion dung, dried and sterilised.
Cats are territorial, even the bravest should leave with they smell a lion.
They should be an environmentally-friendly product which contains no artifical chemicals.
Silent Roar Lion Manure - Cat Repellent.
Cat repellent scatter granules.

5. Herbs and certain garden flowers.
The best one is Lavender, although it may take a few weeks for the invading cat(s) to start to leave as the smell will eventually drive them away.
They will come back, creatures of habit, but this will get less and less as the smell will eventually become to much for them to ignore.


There seems to be a total misunderstanding about cats covering there poo.
An old wives tale, as seems in the UK everyone is under some sort of old wives tale which is actually ruining your quality of life if you keep thinking these ways.
You are giving yourself stress over something that you know nothing about and as most old wives tales are always proven to be simply this, OLD WIVES TALES, why are you allowing this sort of nonsense to enter your frame of mind and hamper your thoughts BEFORE you even do something?


Cats droppings are like comparing a pea to a football if the dog is large.
Dog poo can be the same amount as us humans, or even more which basically in a civilised first world county like the UK we don't allow or want this.
If people want to go live in a third world country where they can allow animals to do whatever they want then leave the UK.


If your neighbour is beyond reasoning and is so obsessed with their cats then the fight is somewhat harder but do not let them see your anger or frustration as this in itself has caused the cat owner to subconsciously get one over on you. you have expressed an opinion which obviously goes against their entire understanding of there beloved cats. This then turns into a war overnight.
I cannot put on a forum what to do about this
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Cats do not come under the same laws because they don't hurt, maim or kill humans. They can't be domesticated like dogs and ordered by command to cause danger or suffering to humans. Hence dogs have to now be leashed in most public places and are not allowed to roam on there own or defecate in public.
Cats are wanderers by there very feline nature so you can't control this so no laws are going to help.
So they can be allowed to stray and crap where they want?
In that case they also have the right to get run over.
No obligations = No rights.
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We have a similar problem.
So far we've bought a cheap pair of China owls (Lidl) with large staring eyes which we move around the garden regularly.
We're also trying a kid's plastic windmill.
Last three days have been poo free.

PS. We also have a large cat chasing dog!
That's not large cats, large dog.

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Another good cure is to use lots of orange peel around your garden for a few days. This works very well as cats somehow hate orange zest.


I am surprised to see so many people who are suffering because of cats.
I am only offering suggestive cures for this but violence or cruelty towards any living animal or threating to kill an animal is NOT acceptable purely for a hating purpose.
It's different if you have to protect yourself from an animal.

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PS. We also have a large cat chasing dog!
That's not large cats, large dog.
This made me laugh, best cure I've seen.

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