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post #171 of 202 (permalink) Old 29-07-2013, 13:57
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We do need to go into city centres as we will be using the MH for trade shows. We can risk the odd fine though. Has anyone got a fine, as if they are anything like parking tickets in most of Europe they cannot enforce them as they have no links with our DVLA. I've had three tickets in the last few years in Holland, Germany and France and never heard another thing about any of them.


'If you carry a motorcycle or scooter they are exempt' - does this mean the MH or the scooters? I can only assume it's the scooter?
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Has anyone got a fine, as if they are anything like parking tickets in most of Europe they cannot enforce them as they have no links with our DVLA. I've had three tickets in the last few years in Holland, Germany and France and never heard another thing about any of them.
The German Police can issue on the spot fines but I've never heard of anyone getting one for not having a sticker.
That's not to say it hasn't happened though.

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All two wheeled vehicles are exempt from the scheme.

The motorhome is not exempt from the scheme, whether carrying a scooter on the back or not.

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Thanks Pete, that's useful, I can handle the odd 40 Euro fine, it's worth the risk
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As a result of reading this thread I applied for my Umwelt and received a yellow one (2001 Hymer). We are heading (or were ) to the Black Forrest in September and now I am worried that I might end up not being able to see a great deal of it as the Umwelt zones seem pretty numerous and are mainly for green sticker holders only. Is this going to be a big problem or does it ONLY relate to town centres?
Any help would be appreciated.

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......I shouldn't worry too much, its only for the centres of certain towns/cities in that region and there is usually efficient public transport from outlying areas and nearby campsites/stellplatze.

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See Peejay's reply to the same question just a little earlier.

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Funnily enough we're heading to the Black Forest too at the end of September. The map looks like the zone covers part of the Black Forest, so I was wondering the same thing, don't want to get there are find out we can drive on the scenic routes, hope Peejays post is right.

I might email the local tourist office and ask.
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As far as I can make out the only towns affected within the Black Forest region are Freiburg to the south, Schramberg to the east and Pforzheim to the Northeast.

Theres plenty to explore without venturing into these towns and as far as I can tell, scenic routes shouldn't be affected.

For a rough idea have a look at the following maps of areas affected within those towns....

http://www.lowemissionzones.eu/count...nu-61/freiburg

http://www.lowemissionzones.eu/count...u-61/pforzheim

http://www.lowemissionzones.eu/count...-61/schramberg

A further bit of info, follow the link below for Stellplatze within or just outside zones...

http://www.reisemobil-international....s/umweltzonen/

First list is Cities in which at least one stellplatze is located in the green zone. Access is only possible with a sticker.

Second list is Cities with environmental zones where the stellplatze is either just outside the environmental zone or has a designated sticker-free access route.

Third list is Cities with environmental zones, but without any stellplatze

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Got a green one from Berlin office, ordered on the 8th. here today.

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Another vote for the Berlin office. Applied on-line on their English web page on a Friday, got my plakette on the following Wednesday all for 6 euros.

Yes, I know I could've saved a whole shiny euro by getting it from any of their equivalent of an MOT testing centre but I think it was worth the extra Euro for the piece of mind.

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Another vote for the Berlin office. Applied on-line on their English web page on a Friday, got my plakette on the following Wednesday all for 6 euros. Mr Wez
Me too. Just as quick but mine only cost 3 Euros.

They sent me two, in separate envelopes??

Peejay - Thanks for the detailed information, but for a trivial 6 Euros I can't see why anyone (whose van qualifies) wouldn't get a plakette, just for the peace of mind, as Mr Wez said.

It's just something else not to bother about when you are relaxing on holiday.

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Thank you Peejay
You have gone to a lot of trouble for which I am extremely grateful. The zones don't look too onerous and any visits to the centres can be done on the bikes or on foot. It is refreshing to know that they have thought about MH access to the Stelleplatze's as we aim to be using them during our tour.

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