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post #41 of 57 (permalink) Old 08-12-2017, 10:17
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Thanks for the correct contact for the sticker..........................like the EHIC card there are private companies overcharging for the "service" €19 on one site.

Anyway it's on it's way but as has been mentioned before, it's rated at 3 when I asked for a 4 as in Germany. That's for a 2009 Ducato which I am sure is a 4.
I have a 2007 3.0 litre Ducato and was sent a 3 sticker.

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I have a 2007 3.0 litre Ducato and was sent a 3 sticker.
As is the way with these things the French system works level 1 is least polluting whilst level 6 is the most polluting.
The German system is the reverse with the least polluting having the highest number and vice versa.

The German system is the most logical of course as the number will increase in line with increases in emission standards.

This link to the official French website shows a Euro 4 diesel vehicle is assessed as level 3.


https://www.ecologique-solidaire.gou...e-lair-critair
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Thanks for the correct contact for the sticker..........................like the EHIC card there are private companies overcharging for the "service" €19 on one site.

Anyway it's on it's way but as has been mentioned before, it's rated at 3 when I asked for a 4 as in Germany. That's for a 2009 Ducato which I am sure is a 4.
My 2009 Ducato based Rapido has been issued a Crit'Air 3 sticker.

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Thanks for that info @rayc

Now I understand................. a Euro 4 engine is a 3 in France which is better than a 5 whereas in Germany the 4 which I have and thought it was due to a Euro 4 engine has nothing to do with that and is not actually as good as a German 3 which is the equivalent of a French 2.

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Do we need a separate one for Germany? Spain? Italy?

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Yes for Germany, but don’t know about the other countries. I obtained a German one at the same time as I got the French one.

Can’t recall the website, it was someone on here who gave a link to a Berlin website. It was easier than the French application and again only about €5 beware of sites offering to obtain one for you.

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Did a quick search. Pretty sure this is the site to apply through. €6 and does the life of the vehicle.

https://www.berlin.de/labo/mobilitae...p.86595.en.php

This site seems to list most, if not all of the schemes in Europe.

https://www.umwelt-plakette.de/en/in...in-europe.html

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Thanks for that info @rayc

Now I understand................. whereas in Germany the 4 which I have and thought it was due to a Euro 4 engine has nothing to do with that and is not actually as good as a German 3 .

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A German 4 is "better" than a German 3. The higher the number the better the emissions.
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The German system is the most logical of course as the number will increase in line with increases in emission standards.
Now Ray I understood that bit....................like Rainman with the card counting...........low number good,high number bad.

But then you posted this which seems to be the opposite

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A German 4 is "better" than a German 3. The higher the number the better the emissions.
No there must be a solution................. think man think.

So the German number does not increase in line with "actual emissions" it increase in line with improving "emission standards"

And that is how a 4 can be better than a 3
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