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post #21 of 100 (permalink) Old 15-03-2021, 09:08 Thread Starter
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There was a whole thread that went on for ages about insomnia. Alcohol is known to wake you up again after the initial sedative effect. It has no effect on me as, like you Jan, I wake up at intervals during the night anyway. I have tried all the usual tricks and some not so usual tricks. I never use screens around bedtime or when I wake in the night. Even the bedside clock has a red display. Funnily enough lockdown has helped, though not cured, it. I still wake up and go down to take a couple of co codamol, read for a bit, then I sleep until about 7 ish which is unheard of for me.

We can't easily get Melatonin here but I might look on amazon when we know which is a good make. Magnesium is also supposed to be good if taken at bedtime.
Magnesium I have been taking for over a year now Pat to ward off leg cramp at night, funny enough last night was one of the nights it failed me and I had foot and ankle cramp

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This is rapidly becoming g a self help medication thread. !

I have used quinine for night time cramp, but it's no longer available here so my consultant recommended Schweppes Zero Tonic Water as it contains quinine extract - many others don't contain it.

Two glasses of that at lunchtime (without the gin) certainly helps and has more or less stopped the worst of the cramps.

Once again, worth a look at, the flavour is perfectly OK as a lunchtime drink.
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I know Graham @GMJ was troubled greatly by it. It seems more prevalent in women than men and that is certainly the case in our house. Chris once, famously, slept through a car hitting a telegraph pole outside our house followed by me yelling out the window was everyone ok and then holding a shouted conversation with neighbour who was searching for the driver! Funnily enough when we used to wild camp I would sleep like a log and Chris would be hyper vigilant all night waking at the slightest sound.

I am sure that hormones are involved. There is one theory that older women would be on baby care duties during the night, allowing young mothers to get some sleep, and that is why we are such light sleepers.
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I had quinine from the doctor Dave, worked for a couple of weeks and then not, tonic water I also had before the diet, too much sugar in it to drink on a diet, I still have half a dozen bottles in the cupboard along with 2 may be 3 bottles of gin

As my problem started at the hormone change time maybe the melatonin is what I am lacking. You havenīt told us the make Dave.

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I know Graham @GMJ was troubled greatly by it.
I still am Pat

As it goes, I have been working with the Dr for the last 2 months as my meds became sub optimal. We are now back where I was - medication-wise - 15 years ago!

I am however now trying 'Sleep Restriction' techniques. It's early days so no comment as of yet.

Have tried CBT (group and one-on-one sessions); acupuncture; hypnotherapy; on line courses; books; melatonin; proper sleeping tablets; non addictive meds from the Dr; over the counter meds; anti-histamines...all to no avail. I have given up caffeine and virtually given up alcohol; we have adjusted our eating times; we have no blue screens in the bedroom; and I wear an eye mask to bed!

The Dr has basically given up and there is no sleep clinic I can be referred to locally. I suspect at some stage I will have to go private unfortunately.
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I'm pretty short on sleep too. In my case it's gout with a good dollop of sciatica.
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I'm pretty short on sleep too. In my case it's gout with a good dollop of sciatica.
400mg of Allopurinal every day keeps my gout in check Al
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I'll get some on Monday Graham, ta.
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