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post #1 of 49 (permalink) Old 27-07-2014, 08:58 Thread Starter
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A-Frame in France

Has anybody used an a-frame in France this year - we are taking our smart car over with us in September. So I would be interested if anybody has had any problems. Thanks
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Bloody forum is slow again, so I hope this uploads - eventually!!!!

There have been several recent threads on just this subject so I would suggest a browse.

You certainly don't see them very often in France, but I'm not aware of anyone having problems recently. What the pending new legislation will bring is anyone's guess though, as the whole area is so uniformly grey in much of Europe.

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over the last couple of years I've seen several French motorhomes on aires with cars on A frames. It doesn't mean they are legal over there, either for the French or for UK drivers . As Zeb says, very grey......


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Officially they are illegal to use in France (as they are in Spain and Portugal too, amongst other mainland European countries), but the French police just about always turn a blind eye...it's a technical offence that they just don't seem to be hardly ever interested in.

Your chances of getting stopped, fined, and made to de-couple and continue as two separate vehicles is remote in France.
(be aware that it ain't remote any longer in Spain or Portugal though).

Just consider/plan for that possibility, unlikely as it is....are there two drivers in the MH so that one of you could drive each vehicle if necessary throughout the rest of your time in France, etc.
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We used ours in France for 6 weeks in May & June with no problems. We saw police several times but they weren't interested.

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Even though very few people seem to ever have had a problem in France that certainly doesn't mean that it's either legal or that you won't be the unlucky one to meet Msr Efficient Flic

The only 100% certain option is to use a trailer. I don't propose to get into any sort of argument in respect of legality or otherwise. My only comment would be that clearly in Spain and Portugal they consider them to be not legal and users are being stopped and fined.

If you choose to use an A frame in France it's a personal decision, but it's one you should consider carefully as, has been stated by others, there is a possibility of being stopped, fined and made to uncouple. It's all about risk really, if you are prepared to take the risk go for it!

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What Mr Plodd just said.

In the past it wouldn't have been a big problem. You could have uncoupled and driven 20 or 30 miles down the road before hitching up again . . . with little realistic chances of being "copped in the act".

The ubiquitous surveillance cameras have stopped all that, so the big question (as he said) is, "Do you want to spend (potentially) the whole of your holiday driving in convoy?"

Not a big risk in France I agree, but if it did happen it wouldn't do a lot to enhance the relaxing holiday atmosphere!

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Used a-frame in June for 2 weeks - no problems also saw another 2 being used.

Have and will avoid Spain and Portugal.
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Don't forget to add Germany to the list as we were stopped and fined there last year, not a problem if you have 2 drivers though. We also got stopped in Italy but they were quite happy for us to continue.

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Jan said:- Don't forget to add Germany to the list as we were stopped and fined there last year, not a problem if you have 2 drivers though. Jan
Depends on your point of view Jan.

It would be a major problem to us since (as I said a couple of posts above) we would most definitely not want to spend a holiday driving in convoy!!

I just don't think it's worth the risk - and I can reverse our trailer fairly easily, but using an A-frame that would be impossible for more than a few feet in a dead straight line.

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